Jimmy Carr tax affairs 'morally wrong' - Cameron

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I think the right thing for people like Jimmy Carr should pay all the money back

Alan, Has the logistics company you work for ever taken steps to limit its tax liability? If so, with you being in the senior management team, have you raised concerns about this to your colleagues or spoken to the board to prevent this? If the company you work for has taken advantage of a loophole which is then closed, have you suggested to the board that, as above, they should pay any tax avoided?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Alan, Has the logistics company you work for ever taken steps to limit its tax liability? If so, with you being in the senior management team, have you raised concerns about this to your colleagues or spoken to the board to prevent this? If the company you work for has taken advantage of a loophole which is then closed, have you suggested to the board that, as above, they should pay any tax avoided?

I never said I worked in logistics, I work in the Rail and previously Bus sectors in London.

If I was a member of the senior managment of a logistics (Yodel for example), I would stongly critcise the company/board/colleagues for avoiding tax and yes I would demand the return of the "stolen" tax money

If it is morally wrong, close the fecking loop holes or is that too fecking simple for you Dave?

Or would that upset a few of your, 'We're in this together' let's support the Tory Rich fan club?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Mick

If it is morally wrong, close the fecking loop holes or is that too fecking simple for you Dave?

Or would that upset a few of your, 'We're in this together' let's support the Tory Rich fan club?

If he does not close them, he will lose further support, of course we will see in 2015 (if they are lucky!)

(The rich have provided the money, but the rest of us provided the votes for him)

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I never said I worked in logistics, I work in the Rail and previously Bus sectors in London.

If I was a member of the senior managment of a logistics (Yodel for example), I would stongly critcise the company/board/colleagues for avoiding tax and yes I would demand the return of the "stolen" tax money

So the company you are currently a senior manager with, have they taken steps to limit the tax they pay and have let you let them know of your unhappiness if so?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by gazzae

So the company you are currently a senior manager with, have they taken steps to limit the tax they pay and have let you let them know of your unhappiness if so?

As for as I know the Rail company I work for, I have not heard of any attempt of them avoiding tax, if I did, I would let them know I would be against it

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

As for as I know the Rail company I work for, I have not heard of any attempt of them avoiding tax, if I did, I would let them know I would be against it

I have to admit I'm shocked you don't know. I was certain you would have investigated this before joining said company and on an on-going basis. After all you are very keen on criticising other people / companies on tax avoidance. I imagine if you do discover they are avoiding tax then the only possible outcome, for a man of your principles, would be to tender your resignation.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by gazzae

I have to admit I'm shocked you don't know. I was certain you would have investigated this before joining said company and on an on-going basis. After all you are very keen on criticising other people / companies on tax avoidance. I imagine if you do discover they are avoiding tax then the only possible outcome, for a man of your principles, would be to tender your resignation.

I have not found any plan to avoid tax in the time worked on for that company (its a TOC by the way), if I did find s secret plan, the first thing I will do is leak it to the press

The topic is not whether certain CF members know or have participated in Tax loopholes.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

The topic is not whether certain CF members know or have participated in Tax loopholes.

Sorry about that!

You keep saying that but you still do it.This is your last chance.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

You keep saying that but you still do it.This is your last chance.

What do you mean?

[dave6x]

From what I understand, any corporation, business, or individual not on PAYE, who employs an accountant expects that accountant to deal with any liability for tax within the rules of the HMRC. Any accountant worth his salt will ensure that his client will pay the minimum amount of tax whilst staying within the law. It is neither illegal nor immoral to do this, it is business.

Mr Cameron may not like the fact that individuals, businesses and corporations are fully exploiting all the many loopholes that exist in our tax system and depriving the country of £billions in lost tax revenue, but the ball is in his court! Instead of lambasting individuals in the press he needs to put the effort into sorting out the system. If this means many extra highly qualified staff within the HMRC and the Treasury then so be it, supposing £50m in staffing cost to maybe collect an additional £50billion+ sounds like a fair deal to me!

The only answer is for the government to overhaul the tax systems to remove the loopholes and also to ensure that corporations doing business in this country are liable for tax on those transactions at UK rates payable in this country, not in some tax haven in which the company is registered!

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Pay the taxes you are supposed to pay.

What about if I think I'm paying too much tax and that the money raised is being misspent?

Originally Posted by Ramrod

What about if I think I'm paying too much tax and that the money raised is being misspent?

Then vote for the government that will follow the economic policies you want..