Cameron leaves daughter at pub.

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Tell that to the newspapers who are doing anything to big this up to take the heat of them for a change.

They are doing it because Cameron is dead meat in a few months.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I wonder if the **** would have bothered covering it if it was you or me instead of Cameron ?

If "Call me Dave" likes 3 or 4 glasses of wine with his lunch, how come all those policemen who guard him, allowed him to DRIVE back to the pub to collect his daughter, and after getting behind the wheel why didn't one of them give him a breath test.

Ah, the old "take two different stories and conflate them into one" ploy.....

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

If "Call me Dave" likes 3 or 4 glasses of wine with his lunch, how come all those policemen who guard him, allowed him to DRIVE back to the pub to collect his daughter, and after getting behind the wheel why didn't one of them give him a breath test.

Because we have double standards in place but if you drove out of the same pub after consuming a similar amount they would probably get you pulled over to show how aware they were.

It would not matter who was primeminister at the time as no one would breathalyze him or her.

I see this thread has dropped to the level of fantasy ranting.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chris

I see this thread has dropped to the level of fantasy ranting.

So if he or anyone else has had a drink should they be allowed to drive even if with a police protection team, the only answer is no as no one is above the law now if that is a fantasy I wonder what world you are in.

Originally Posted by Chris

I see this thread has dropped to the level of fantasy ranting.

Or perhaps it's just an example of how prone to hyperbole we have become as a nation?
We either veer from overly sympathetic to overly judgemental attitudes with a state of hyper panic in between....We need to get back to level headed thinking with a good strong dose of common sense applied.

Originally Posted by Peter_

So if he or anyone else has had a drink should they be allowed to drive even if with a police protection team, the only answer is no as no one is above the law now if that is a fantasy I wonder what world you are in.

Or perhaps it's more likely that David Cameron was either not above the legal limit, or, more likely still, didn't actually drive the car back to the pub, because he is not above the law and would have been prevented from breaking it by the POLICEMEN that follow him around everywhere.

For pity's sake.

Originally Posted by Peter_

So if he or anyone else has had a drink should they be allowed to drive even if with a police protection team, the only answer is no as no one is above the law now if that is a fantasy I wonder what world you are in.

How do you know he was above the limit?

Originally Posted by Hugh

How do you know he was above the limit?

Because he is both posh and a Tory, and is therefore doubly evil. Apparently.

[danielf]

I'd be surprised if he drives anywhere himself. I would assume he's generally too busy and spends his travelling time in the back of a car talking to advisors or going over documents.

[nomadking]

The drinking wine bit doesn't come from this incident.

In a new biography, friends of Mr Cameron last month told how he enjoyed drinking 'three or four glasses of wine' over lunch at the weekend,

In this instance:-

He said: 'The Camerons had been sitting outside with two other family groups who seemed to be personal friends. Mr Cameron just had a pint of bitter and then they all left.

Anyway:-

Mrs Bonnick said they arrived on foot but left in three black cars, apparently driven by protection officers.

Would he be allowed to drive, as any driver of the car would have to be trained in dealing with emergency situations(evasion etc)?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Hugh

How do you know he was above the limit?

Who said he was, but he may have been but if his protection detail drove it is of no consequence, but if they were there surely they would be aware of the child.

Now a little bit of perspective, if this were the other fools Brown, Blair or Milliband all the tory supporters would be over this thread like a rash giving vent to their anger, now as its Cameron they are instead rushing to protect him, now I personally do not care if it was any of the above as it should not have happened regardless of who they are.

Do not protect a person simply because he is the leader of your favoured party as it should not happen and it shows them for up for being careless.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Because he is both posh and a Tory, and is therefore doubly evil. Apparently.

Try reading the above without your blue tinted glasses as it is not quite what you envisage.

[Ramrod]

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Peter_

Do not protect a person simply because he is the leader of your favoured party as it should not happen and it shows them for up for being careless.

Equally, do not attack a person because he is the leader of the party you oppose. Instead, take things at face value. Yes, it's a stupid thing to do. People do stupid things. It doesn't look good for a PM, but hey, he's human and has plenty on his mind. Stop being petty.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by danielf

Equally, do not attack a person because he is the leader of the party you oppose. Instead, take things at face value. Yes, it's a stupid thing to do. People do stupid things. It doesn't look good for a PM, but hey, he's human and has plenty on his mind. Stop being petty.

Exactly - I'm not a Conmeron fan, but it happens. It was a stupid, careless thing to do, and one thing that this episode proves, is that ANYONE can make that mistake. As long as he learns from it and is more vigalent going forward, then that's the most important thing.