How stupid is the water ban

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

how do you know how long it takes if your not there

Because they tell him to come back in a couple of hours

I think he just does it so he doesn't have to pay for parking.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

By the way, it takes far longer than 10 minutes to wash, dry, and wax a car properly.

Not if you use a waterless system.

I have a large 7 seat MPV and I now clean and polish it in a quarter of the time it used to take and with far better results. On a good day I can do it in about 15 mins.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Osem

Not if you use a waterless system.

I have a large 7 seat MPV and I now clean and polish it in a quarter of the time it used to take and with far better results. On a good day I can do it in about 15 mins.

I bet that's not good for the paintwork.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Not if you use a waterless system.

I have a large 7 seat MPV and I now clean and polish it in a quarter of the time it used to take and with far better results. On a good day I can do it in about 15 mins.

and you do this yourself ? i was beginning to think i was alone
to me its a matter of pride to shine up my motor - well done

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

and you do this yourself ? i was beginning to think i was alone
to me its a matter of pride to shine up my motor - well done

Hardly taking pride over the finish of your car if it only takes you 10 mins.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I bet that's not good for the paintwork.

au contraire - it's excellent for the paintwork and the more you use it the better it gets. Rubbing a watery solution of fine 'grit' into the paintwork using the traditional sponge and leather is bad for it.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

its a debate one doesn't win a debate by dropping the subject matter .

how do you know how long it takes if your not there

When I do wash my own car, I do it properly, which takes a minimum of an hour.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Hardly taking pride over the finish of your car if it only takes you 10 mins.

Not necessarily true - I take pride in cleaning my car and the fact that I can do it in 15 mins. and leave it with a swirl free showroom finish makes me even happier.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

When I do wash my own car, I do it properly, which takes a minimum of an hour.

stretched limo is it ?

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Osem

au contraire - it's excellent for the paintwork and the more you use it the better it gets. Rubbing a watery solution of fine 'grit' into the paintwork using the traditional sponge and leather is bad for it.

That's why you rinse it first, which gets rid of most of the grit. Then by using water you are washing the dirt away rather than rubbing it in as you would with no water.

It's not the waterless system that used to be advertised on the daytime tv adverts is it? Because I take most of those adds with a pinch of salt. Just like ther Dormeo mattress advert where they try and convince you that a cheap and nasty foam only mattress is worth a fortune.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

stretched limo is it ?

No, I just do a proper job. Rinsing, washing, drying, waxing, wheels & tyres.

Only taking 10 mins is just being lazy

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Originally Posted by Osem

Not necessarily true - I take pride in cleaning my car and the fact that I can do it in 15 mins. and leave it with a swirl free showroom finish makes me even happier.

I'm sure you are happy with it, but I'm yet to be convinced. I spend 16 years in the metal finishing trade, and I know what can cause long term damage. Common sense says that by using no water you are rubbing the paint with dirt, grit and grime. It may look good in the short term, but I can't see it doing the paint any good long term.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

That's why you rinse it first, which gets rid of most of the grit. Then by using water you are washing the dirt away rather than rubbing it in as you would with no water.

It's not the waterless system that used to be advertised on the daytime tv adverts is it? Because I take most of those adds with a pinch of salt. Just like ther Dormeo mattress advert where they try and convince you that a cheap and nasty foam only mattress is worth a fortune.

Yes I'm aware of the traditional technique for washing a car - I did it for years and this is far far better but you'll only find that out if you try it. You can rinse a car as and your sponge as many times as you like but there will still be fine grit particles lurking on it and each time you rub them over the surface they scratch it. The waterless system removes this grit but prevents it scratching your paintwork in the process and it can be used in wet, dry and or sunny conditions. It also avoids those horrible hard water marks which always appear from beads of water which have been trapped in the exterior trim and trickle out over a period of time.

It is a Greased Lightning product called Showroom Shine and it's sold on TV and via Amazon, Ebay etc. IMO you'll find it very hard to find a negative review of this product anywhere unlike the mattresses......

Trust me, I was just as sceprtical as you and spent far too many years of my life doing the job the hard way and leaving swirl marks on my cars. I've used it on my latest car for years and there's no paint damage at all. Being a cynic, however, before I ever used it on my car I tried it on some polished stainless steel sheet left over from our new kitchen (notoriously easy to scratch!) with some builders sand rubbed into it. It never left a mark, now I'm sorry but anything that can do that is one hell of a product. Anyway, they way to find out for yourself is to try it, just like I did but that's your choice and one you offer your mattress customers for the very same reason - so they can see for themselves.....

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes I'm aware of the traditional technique for washing a car - I did it for years and this is far far better but you'll only find that out if you try it. You can rinse a car as and your sponge as many times as you like but there will still be fine grit particles lurking on it and each time you rub them over the surface they scratch it. The waterless system removes this grit but prevents it scratching your paintwork in the process and it can be used in wet, dry and or sunny conditions. It also avoids those horrible hard water marks which always appear from beads of water which have been trapped in the exterior trim and trickle out over a period of time.

It is a Greased Lightning product called Showroom Shine and it's sold on TV and via Amazon, Ebay etc. IMO you'll find it very hard to find a negative review of this product anywhere unlike the mattresses......

So you are telling me that your system will just make all this dirt fall off the car?



If you use a good wax, or even better a resin polish and then wax, then grit won't stick to the paint. And the resin polish puts a layer on top of the paint that protects it.

There are two pages of reviews here. Many give 5 stars, but it's worth reading the ones that don't: http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

So you are telling me that your system will just make all this dirt fall off the car?



If you use a good wax, or even better a resin polish and then wax, then grit won't stick to the paint. And the resin polish puts a layer on top of the paint that protects it.

i can see why it takes you an hour if that's the state you let it get into before a wash

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i can see why it takes you an hour if that's the state you let it get into before a wash

I'm being environmentally friendly

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

I'm being environmentally friendly

looks like your running a garden centre on the bonnet