First sign of Conservative dissatisfaction at Cameron/Osborne leadership

[mertle]

Not suprising really alot seeing the policies not really helping the economy neither going to be good for voters. The cracks are appearing as reality sets in that these idiots not got clue.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gree...h-davidcameron

Gardian picked up on these articles one by the telgraph ed west saying boldy conservitives will lose next election thank god. Has scathing attack on duo's backward atitudes policies. Quoting Francis Maude’s speech critising the policies.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ed...015-thank-god/

Then we have James Dilingpole critism of cameron and osbourne giving public schools a bad name with snobish, spoilt and arrogant atitude.

Osbournes poor financial management of our nation. with fantasic quote from the spectator

“Quantitative Easing is a transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich,� he says, “It floods banks with money, which they use to pay themselves bonuses. The banks have money, and assets, so they can borrow easily. The poor guy, who is unemployed and can't borrow, is not going to benefit from it.� The QE process pushes asset prices up, he says, which is great for those who own stocks, shares and expensive houses. “But the state is subsidising the rich. It is the top 1 per cent who benefit from Quantitative Easing, not the 99 per cent.�’

Here's how Bill Jamieson described "possibly the greatest gamble in British economic history."

‘Low rates of interest are, of course, great news for a government which needs to borrow £4,000 a second — but not for savers who see the value of their nest egg destroyed by inflation. It hurts pension funds, so what we think we’re putting towards retirement will be worth far less. Companies see the value of their pension fund plunge — and have to top it up. This is what QE does: transfers wealth from savers to borrowers. If the Chancellor stood up and admitted as much, it would cause uproar. But because QE is a complex Bank of England mechanism with a boring name, no one much cares.We need not guess at its effects. The Bank’s own analysis has confirmed that the first £200 billion of QE pushed up inflation by anything from 1 to 2.6 percentage points. This was slipped out in the small print of a Bank report, barely making a ripple. Compare this to the political outcry which surrounded the 2.5 percentage point rise in VAT last January. Every household had to pay considerably more for shopping due to QE, too, and, as with VAT, it has hit the poorest households hardest.’

You could not argue there is something plainly wrong but like bull they carry on will both be here before the election somehow the murmurings will be volcano of dicontent.

We might not even ned lib dems the conservatives will remove the clowns for us.

And if there were high interest rates, they would be bitching about how this was hurting businesses and home-owners.....

[Alan Fry]

So they cannot plase anyone apart form the rich, It is about time they radically changed on the scale of Thatcher, but they not going to

I feel that all 3 main parties are going to loose support to other parties, who will take their place, who knows...

[tweetiepooh]

Interest rates are set by the Bank of England not the politicians and at the moment since our mortgage is higher than savings low interest rates help. Especially as fees on mortgages are so high.

And the richest always complain the most and are often the least hit. Not only does it not really matter if they only have £1 million to spend instead of £2 million or at least not when it comes to the essentials, but they can also afford the means to avoid charges/taxes/payments.

[Chrysalis]

I think everyone complains but its the richest who have the loudest voices.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

So they cannot plase anyone apart form the rich, It is about time they radically changed on the scale of Thatcher, but they not going to

I feel that all 3 main parties are going to loose support to other parties, who will take their place, who knows...

And what other parties are they Alan?.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

And what other parties are they Alan?.

Either (current) minority party or completely new poltical parties, all I know is the main parties are losing ground, apart from the Lib Dems, who are on the nearing the end...

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Either (current) minority party or completely new poltical parties,

They have no chance of being elected now or in the near future.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

They have no chance of being elected now or in the near future.

Yes, for now, but if both the tories and labour lose support, I do think that will be the case

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Yes, for now, but if both the tories and labour lose support, I do think that will be the case

Only on Planet Zarg maybe.

[mertle]

Only party remotely looking to gain vast numbers is UKIP then dont trust this party myself. Feels very uncomfortly its like Cons mark 2 but can really see people duped voting for them.

denphone I agree there is nothing in british politics anymore there all bad each other. I wondering monstor raving looney party already feverently in power last 33 years of politics.

This coalition become the worst in living memory with madcap policies thinking the debt can hide its mantra extremism policies which nothing to do with helping the UK.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

Only on Planet Zarg maybe.

NO that is not true, there are splits within both parties, for example Anti-EU mMP's and membrs (a large part of the party) could leave and join UKIP

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

NO that is not true, there are splits within both parties, for example Anti-EU mMP's and membrs (a large part of the party) could leave and join UKIP

But they are not going to leave and join UKIP Alan.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

But they are not going to leave and join UKIP Alan.

Some Tories have done that already

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by mertle

Only party remotely looking to gain vast numbers is UKIP then dont trust this party myself. Feels very uncomfortly its like Cons mark 2 but can really see people duped voting for them.

denphone I agree there is nothing in british politics anymore there all bad each other. I wondering monstor raving looney party already feverently in power last 33 years of politics.

This coalition become the worst in living memory with madcap policies thinking the debt can hide its mantra extremism policies which nothing to do with helping the UK.

The deficit was a blessing for this government, as the changes been pushed through have been planned for years, the welfare reform was planned by IDS since he stood down as leader of the party and the NHS reform was planned also. But both of these would have been obviously harder to achieve if the economy was all roses when they came into power. I suspect we would have seen more extreme changes if they got into power on their own hence some tories feeling let down.