SD TV price rises - Page 45

Itshim · 22-02-2012, 17:05

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Originally Posted by denphone

And l have no doubt they will and l think you only have to look at the Tivo sales figures and the first profit they have ever had to see that they are very clearly on the right lines and this year will just be a continuation of that and its only the doomsayers or the doubting thomases who will will believe differently.

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That they are on the right lines is not in doubt.
I feel there problems are that they announce things way to soon. Hence "coming soon" can be years away. Think of
1) Red button
Really because of the rush to launch .Tivo they have in some ways scored an own goal just look at the complaints.They do not reflect well on the company. and the latest fix- I would have kept quite about that one. Again gets a lot of peoples backs up over nothing - in real terms.

2) higher speeds - stupidly offered as free ( hey we will put up the charges any way) this announcement should have been reversed- price rise first - lets be honest we all knew it was coming. Then increased speeds.( mine seems to be an year away - that`s if the time table is followed no faith on that score either, but then I don`t care happy with what I have )

3) What channels are coming - keep quite until you have them - stop saying we are in talks - that becomes Virgin are getting,x y or z in no time at all.

22-02-2012, 18:44

I agree with MR K
Virgin Media have got too greedy it will backfire on them.

my bill has gone up by over 8%

I do like vm BB L fast reliable but had to cancel Â£26 pm is to expensive in my opinion being disconnected 2nd March had to save money in these hard times at work we had to except 10% cut in wages but the bills still have to be paid if tivo goes up to Â£5 pm that will go as well

devilincarnate · 22-02-2012, 18:49

My bill has gone up but all I can say is WTF as if I was really bothered about it I would vote with my feet. But who care as it is only money and you can not take it with you?

Mr K · 22-02-2012, 20:22

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

My bill has gone up but all I can say is WTF as if I was really bothered about it I would vote with my feet. But who care as it is only money and you can not take it with you?

yes of course you're right. Why doesn't VM take my house and car aswell they're only material possessions

Truth is nobody else, including utility companies/council tax/sky, is daring to put up their prices at the moment. VM have miscalculated.

devilincarnate · 22-02-2012, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Truth is nobody else, including utility companies/council tax/sky, is daring to up put their prices at the moment. VM have miscalculated.

You will not complain if they do not when the utility companies do?

denphone · 22-02-2012, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Mr K

yes of course you're right. Why doesn't VM take my house and car aswell they're only material possessions

Truth is nobody else, including utility companies/council tax/sky, is daring to put up their prices at the moment. VM have miscalculated.

Have you got any proof of why you think they have miscalculated as it seems strange to me as you just seem to have it in for Virgin at the moment and strange that you think utility companies and council tax have not gone up because they have in the last 6 months and also don't think that Sky won't put their prices up later in the year because they damn well will.

Arthurgray50@blu · 22-02-2012, 20:36

We have been advised by email to say that our services is going up by Â£3.50 per month and our online system is going up by Â£1.00.

VM cannot justify this increase, Where are any new channels - there isn't any, the tv service is poor, just had an email back from Niel Burkett and he tells me that there is still a charge of Â£49.99 for Tivo.

I seriously believe that they have shot them self in the foot, l do have a full package on Sky, and l think that VM will be gone shortly.

Without new channels, the Tv service is poor, if people say that you get HD channels free, well lets put it this way Sky offer 50 channels on HD for a fee and they keep increasing them no problem.

Mr K · 22-02-2012, 20:36

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

You will not complain if they do not when the utility companies do?

At least Utility companies lower bill occasionally, have VM ever done that ?

There will be 2 increases for current TiVo users within the next 12 months, this one and the full Â£5 TiVo charge per box when their contract comes to an end (source: Neil Berkett's statement to Investors - and not guaranteed it's not true or withdrawn from anybody at VM).

denphone · 22-02-2012, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Mr K

At least Utility companies lower bill occasionally, have VM ever done that ?

There will be 2 increases for current TiVo users within the next 12 months, this one and the full Â£5 TiVo charge per box when their contract comes to an end (source: Neil Berkett's statement to Investors - and not guaranteed it's not true or withdrawn from anybody at VM).

You really seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this imaginary Â£5 Tivo charge for existing customers and you really have no real substantiation of this wild claim at this present moment.

Mr K · 22-02-2012, 20:44

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Originally Posted by denphone

You really seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this imaginary Â£5 Tivo charge for existing customers and you really have no real substantiation of this wild claim at this present moment.

Berkett's quote:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35378652-post1.html

denphone · 22-02-2012, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Berkett's quote:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35378652-post1.html

Best not to believe everything you read Mr K as it often is different to what usually happens on the shop floor.

Mr K · 22-02-2012, 20:54

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Originally Posted by denphone

Best not to believe everything you read Mr K as it often is different to what usually happens on the shop floor.

It was a carefully prepared statement to investors, not an off the cuff remark.

If it's untrue or he's made a mistake why hasn't he personally withdrawn it ? If he's misled investors he'll be in big trouble, which leads me to believe the statement is what VM is intending.

Digital Fanatic · 22-02-2012, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Mr K

It was a carefully prepared statement to investors, not an off the cuff remark.

If it's untrue or he's made a mistake why hasn't he personally withdrawn it ? If he's misled investors he'll be in big trouble, which leads me to believe the statement is what VM is intending.

It was withdrawn on the Official Forum.

devilincarnate · 22-02-2012, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Mr K

It was a carefully prepared statement to investors, not an off the cuff remark.

If it's untrue or he's made a mistake why hasn't he personally withdrawn it ? If he's misled investors he'll be in big trouble, which leads me to believe the statement is what VM is intending.

Why not follow them on the stock market and see what is happening?

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/vmed

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/e...L1017USGBXSSMU

It is good fun with money?

Mr K · 22-02-2012, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

It was withdrawn on the Official Forum.

Not quite. It was preceeded by a 'whilst we reserve the right' statement which means it meant nothing. I also gave Mark Wilkin the opportunity to promise there wouldn't a TiVo charge price rise for current customers this year. Not a big or open ended guarantee, if they are genuine about no increase for current customers. He didn't give it. Personally I believe a statement from the head bloke to investors more than a post on a forum from someone else that has ifs and buts attached.