SD TV price rises - Page 44

BenMcr · 22-02-2012, 14:22

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Originally Posted by richard1960

Thats probably right but my key point has now been lost however which was sky and virgin are focussing on different products as their flagship ones.

To be honest at present I'd say both companies are very intrested in improving the number of products customer's have with them

So for Sky it's getting their TV customers to take phone and broadband with them

For Virgin it's keeping as many people as possible on all 3 services, and getting them to upgrade as well as getting more people to take mobile phones with them

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Originally Posted by stereohaven

This is partly why I think price increases right now are business suicide for VM.

I would expect Sky to increase their prices this year too

22-02-2012, 14:22

Yes i think your right unless VM do something Sky will indeed given time erode VMs USPs.

Thanks for the answer Ben yes i think you sum it up well.

stereohaven · 22-02-2012, 14:31

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I would expect Sky to increase their prices this year too

I would expect them too as well, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't because if they continue to grow their income per customer as they have by selling more bundles (especially with Fibre launching this year), they don't actually need to.

They could have a massive PR opportunity ahead and I wouldn't put it past them to make the most of it.

passingbat · 22-02-2012, 15:25

When Sky roll out fibre, I think VM need to worry because I think many people stay with VM for the fast reliable BB, even though the better TV selection on Sky is tempting. When Sky roll out fibre, that won't be the case.

For me, Sky would have to have a box like Tivo to tempt me; three tuners and whishlists being something I would hate to live without now.

There is also the very good reliability and great service I get from VM that I would prefer not to take a chance on with Sky; I've never used Sky so can't compare, but I know I'm happy with VM in that regard.

But these things won't be enough for some people to stay with VM, so when Sky get fibre, VM need to get definitive USPs. This is why I find it strange that VM aren't getting a move on with multiroom and more Tivo apps, because Sky will soon be a very credible alternative for many VM users IMHO.

Itshim · 22-02-2012, 15:32

Look to wards the SKY every year at contract renewal time.
"Infinity" is in my street ( if that the right way to put it) H D is not an issue ( can`t tell the difference 32" TV) Would look for cheapest telephone line rental I could find, cost per minute not an issue. Virgin upping costs SKY freezing them. It may well be a no brainer .
How ever last year Virgin came out cheaper so who knows.

muppetman11 · 22-02-2012, 15:48

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Originally Posted by passingbat

When Sky roll out fibre, I think VM need to worry because I think many people stay with VM for the fast reliable BB, even though the better TV selection on Sky is tempting. When Sky roll out fibre, that won't be the case.

For me, Sky would have to have a box like Tivo to tempt me; three tuners and whishlists being something I would hate to live without now.

There is also the very good reliability and great service I get from VM that I would prefer not to take a chance on with Sky; I've never used Sky so can't compare, but I know I'm happy with VM in that regard.

But these things won't be enough for some people to stay with VM, so when Sky get fibre, VM need to get definitive USPs. This is why I find it strange that VM aren't getting a move on with multiroom and more Tivo apps, because Sky will soon be a very credible alternative for many VM users IMHO.

Couldn't agree more , for you TIVO is an essential part of your package however I suspect a lot choose VM for BB speed , with a Sky fibre product ever nearer now is the time VM need to vastly up their game or risk losing customers , Sky have many other products/channels in the pipeline this year.

stereohaven · 22-02-2012, 16:00

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

...Sky have many other products/channels in the pipeline this year.

Sky have a refreshing take on the phrase "Coming Soon", i.e. things do!

VM have a different definition by all accounts...

Talking of new products, I think the roaming Wi-Fi powered by The Cloud (which is free to Broadband Unlimited customers) will prove to be a brilliant USP in the years ahead as we consume more and more data on the move.

denphone · 22-02-2012, 16:14

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Sky have many other products/channels in the pipeline this year.

And so do Virgin have many things in the pipeline this year.

stereohaven · 22-02-2012, 16:19

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Originally Posted by denphone

And so do Virgin have many things in the pipeline this year.

Virgin have too many things in their pipeline, that's the problem...

alwaysabear · 22-02-2012, 16:25

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Originally Posted by stereohaven

Virgin have too many things in their pipeline, that's the problem...

They need drain blocker to get the pipeline moving because its been bunged up so long now!

denphone · 22-02-2012, 16:30

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

They need drain blocker to get the pipeline moving because its been bunged up so long now!

Well at least the ducts are fiber optic rather then copper.

alwaysabear · 22-02-2012, 16:34

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well at least the ducts are fiber optic rather then copper.

That copper will be turning to fibre in the near future soon den. Vm have got to up their game and soon.

Stephen · 22-02-2012, 16:35

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well at least the ducts are fiber optic rather then copper.

The ducts are plastic

Its what is in them thats copper or fibre

blackthorn · 22-02-2012, 16:38

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Originally Posted by lewisnadasurf

1 V+ box
1 HD box
50meg
anytime calls

Thats all?

Ah, thats where its different I`ve got

Tivo 1Tb
V+
50meg and all the usual stuff that goes with Vip 50

denphone · 22-02-2012, 16:42

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

That copper will be turning to fibre in the near future soon den. Vm have got to up their game and soon.

And l have no doubt they will and l think you only have to look at the Tivo sales figures and the first profit they have ever had to see that they are very clearly on the right lines and this year will just be a continuation of that and its only the doomsayers or the doubting thomases who will will believe differently.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

The ducts are plastic

Its what is in them thats copper or fibre

Thank you kindly for putting me right yet again.