Football Season 2011/12 - Page 211

**Damien** · 18-02-2012, 19:56

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Resources?

He spent Â£53 million in the summer!

Having sold Nasri and Fabregas who, together with the other players who left, took in Â£70 million. Meeting the rough Â£20 million profit that Arsenal need to make. Additionally it's not just about who you buy but their wages as well. It's utterly dishonest to count incoming transfers only.

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So who else can do a better job with less than Wenger?

Pardew
Redknapp

Both flying and both combined spent less than Wenger in the summer...

Let's see Pardew do it for 15 years shall we? No one is saying this season is a success but proper football teams don't fire their manager after one bad season. We are not Chelsea. One season at Newcastle does make Pardew a better manager, that's insane.

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Tottenham Hotspur spent a fraction of that in the summer and are ahead of you in better form and looking way better in every single way.

Spurs didn't lost two of their best players. If Modric and Bale left then I doubt they would be doing so well. We couldn't keep onto Nasri because his contract would have expired and Fabregas, well everyone knows what happened there.

The window was mismanaged but we need to get into this summer and put it right. It's a bad season and a bad window but that doesn't invalidate all that Wenger's done.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/leag...2006-2011.html

Transfer spending since 2006. Arsenal are bottom. Spurs are forth.

iadom · 18-02-2012, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/leag...2006-2011.html

Transfer spending since 2006. Arsenal are bottom. Spurs are forth.

In terms of "bang for your buck" assuming 'bang' is measured in trophies won since 2006 I guess that list makes SAF head, shoulders, and even torso above all the others.

DocDutch · 18-02-2012, 23:24

Iadom it does work in SAF's favour that the board is willing to spend the money over the odds most of the time

dont you think that if Wenger had the funds to buy a worthless player like Berbatov for 30m that he wouldnt do it?

**Damien** · 18-02-2012, 23:32

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Originally Posted by DocDutch

Iadom it does work in SAF's favour that the board is willing to spend the money over the odds most of the time

dont you think that if Wenger had the funds to buy a worthless player like Berbatov for 30m that he wouldnt do it?

Wenger wouldn't spend Â£30 million but he would spend what he needs too. People forget that he spent between Â£10 - Â£20 million on players more often than he does now prior to the stadium move. That was a lot more then as well. However he always was keen to balance the books as well. It's just now, despite the stadium move, the finances seem more restricted.

A lot of clubs run at a loss to fund their success, once FFP comes in then that might address it.

MalteseFalcon · 19-02-2012, 08:25

A friend is busy passing rumours around that Wenger has been summoned to the boardroom on Tuesday morning where he will be sacked.

Personally, I think Arsenal would be wrong to sack him. He may not be buying players, but I still think he can win something with Arsenal.

Russ · 19-02-2012, 08:32

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

He may not be buying players, but I still think he can win something with Arsenal.

Really? He's been trying since 2005.

**Damien** · 19-02-2012, 08:42

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

A friend is busy passing rumours around that Wenger has been summoned to the boardroom on Tuesday morning where he will be sacked.

LOL. That won't happen. The board are reportedly behind him and sympathetic to the job he is tasked to do with the resources he has.

colin25 · 19-02-2012, 08:58

At start of season, and up to recently, i probably would agree don't sack..now, I think sometimes you do need to change. But that means spending some decent money on getting better players in. Some seasoned pros, some good young blood that can play now..not potential in 5 years

**Damien** · 19-02-2012, 09:06

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Originally Posted by colin25

At start of season, and up to recently, i probably would agree don't sack..now, I think sometimes you do need to change. But that means spending some decent money on getting better players in. Some seasoned pros, some good young blood that can play now..not potential in 5 years

Realistically this is the first season Arsenal are underachieving, even that might not the be the case if we finish 4th. So firing him would be insane. Too many fans and teams want a quick fix, a hasty firing. 6 months of underperformance doesn't negate 15 years of overachieving.

colin25 · 19-02-2012, 09:38

But I looked at that team, and it was woeful.

i suspect fabregas has been carrying that team...now it looks weak...only way that Arsenal will get 4th, is if the other contenders blow it (which granted they seem to be trying to do

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**Damien** · 19-02-2012, 09:56

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Originally Posted by colin25

But I looked at that team, and it was woeful.

i suspect fabregas has been carrying that team...now it looks weak...only way that Arsenal will get 4th, is if the other contenders blow it (which granted they seem to be trying to do

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Wilshere has been out all season and we have rarely had our entire defence fit.

denphone · 19-02-2012, 10:04

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Originally Posted by Damien

Wilshere has been out all season and we have rarely had our entire defence fit.

But even when the defence was fit it was not good enough.

denphone · 19-02-2012, 12:30

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17086935

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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger says they must "stay united and fight" following their FA Cup exit at Sunderland.

Coming just three days after crashing to a heavy Champions League defeat in Milan, it leaves the Gunners facing a seventh season without a trophy.

"We have to take the criticism on board, stay together and face the critics," said a defiant Wenger.

"It's very difficult to say where it leaves us and what we will do. The only response is to stay united and fight."

Hom3r · 19-02-2012, 13:26

Being a Spurs fan I love winding up the gooners at work.

Tomorrw I'll have a terrible cough

**cough 4 nil cough**

LOL

TheDaddy · 19-02-2012, 15:03

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Originally Posted by Damien

Realistically this is the first season Arsenal are underachieving, even that might not the be the case if we finish 4th. So firing him would be insane. Too many fans and teams want a quick fix, a hasty firing. 6 months of underperformance doesn't negate 15 years of overachieving.

He hasn't won anything for to long to say it's as simple as 6 months of underachieving there are big problems at that club at the moment and as Wimbledon found selling your best players year in year out only leads to disaster in the end.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Being a Spurs fan I love winding up the gooners at work.

Tomorrw I'll have a terrible cough

**cough 4 nil cough**

LOL

Yes lol, btw how did the Spuds get on in the Champions League this year?