V HD : CBS Drama will it be shown on Virgin Media

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

They should at least offer them as stand alone channels (e.g. BoxNation) if VM does not care having them on the M, M+, L, XL TV packs!

CBS Drama as a standalone channel

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

CBS Drama as a standalone channel

Thats another proposterous idea from Alan again.

[m419]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Virgin Media better change its mind over CBS Drama and future Chello Zone HD channels!

CBS Drama is on Freesat as well as Sky!

Yes but i'm sure those broadcasters have to pay some kind of fee to Virgin Media and if Chello Zone think there is not enough demand for the price Virgin Media is offering, then I think they refuse to carry that channel, i'm not entirely sure if that's how the free channels work on Cable but i've heard that rumour quite a lot.

Sometimes it can be the broadcasters themselves that are being unreasonable or under contract with Sky to offer such a channel exclusively to Sky.

Sky are being unreasonable with Sky Atlantic as they have been offering that channel on there lower packages to customers but want a high amount for it on Virgin Media.

For Virgin Media to introduce an XXL TV package or have certain channels as premium channels for the sake of carriage cost disputes is no good as it shows poor value for money and is giving in to the broadcasters, do you really want Virgin Media to increase the prices of the TV service?

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by m419

Sometimes it can be the broadcasters themselves that are being unreasonable or under contract with Sky to offer such a channel exclusively to Sky.

It's FTA on satellite meaning anyone with a satellite dish/receiver can watch it.

Originally Posted by m419

Sky are being unreasonable with Sky Atlantic as they have been offering that channel on there lower packages to customers but want a high amount for it

They are using it as a USP in much the same way VM do their BB network.

[m419]

Broadcasters are under estimating the benefits of Virgin Media's TV platform, just under 4 million TV customers short of viewing there channels and that means lost advertising revenue. Broadcasters also have the ability to supply Virgin Media with TV on demand content.

With the loss of the Sky basic channels, Sky knew it had to do something as it was losing money, a USP lost them money. It is the same with Sky Anytime, the more features and content from Sky Virgin TV has, the more people that will be interested in taking up Sky's premium channels.

Sky Movies Collection looks more attractive at £19.50 per month rather than nearly £22, the cheaper it gets, the more subscribers it gets and the more money Sky can make.

It's simple, some people don't want Sky and want Virgin TV, that way they still manage to make money from the people who won't or can't join.

[Mark Up]

I think some of the replies are deviating from the original post, just my opinion. if Virgin has got some CBS Channels already on free to view why are they holding out on putting on CBS Drama

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by New to cable

How strange that such a channel is not on Virginmedia, its a free to air channels on Sky meaning even if I remove my viewing card I can still watch it.

Don't the BBC pay Sky to transmit their channels even though they are also FTA? If the channel was on VM, then it would attract more viewers and therefore more ad money for the channel owners.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Don't the BBC pay Sky to transmit their channels even though they are also FTA? If the channel was on VM, then it would attract more viewers and therefore more ad money for the channel owners.

They pay fees of £10,000,000
http://corporate.sky.com/skyviews/ar...f_broadcasting

[m419]

Originally Posted by Mark Up

I think some of the replies are deviating from the original post, just my opinion. if Virgin has got some CBS Channels already on free to view why are they holding out on putting on CBS Drama

I've already answered that in the previous post, they probably think the audience is not wide enough for the price Virgin Media wants

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

They pay fees of £10,000,000
http://corporate.sky.com/skyviews/ar...f_broadcasting

That's it! I knew FTA channels had some sort of fee to pay.

That is mad! So if the BBC refuse to pay, Sky would lose BBC channels and not being funny or anything, but everyone watches BBC channels and most people pay there TV licence, therefore, who would subscribe to Sky when they are paying a licence fee for channels they don't even have access to!

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by m419

Yes but i'm sure those broadcasters have to pay some kind of fee to Virgin Media and if Chello Zone think there is not enough demand for the price Virgin Media is offering, then I think they refuse to carry that channel, i'm not entirely sure if that's how the free channels work on Cable but i've heard that rumour quite a lot.

Sometimes it can be the broadcasters themselves that are being unreasonable or under contract with Sky to offer such a channel exclusively to Sky.

Sky are being unreasonable with Sky Atlantic as they have been offering that channel on there lower packages to customers but want a high amount for it on Virgin Media.

For Virgin Media to introduce an XXL TV package or have certain channels as premium channels for the sake of carriage cost disputes is no good as it shows poor value for money and is giving in to the broadcasters, do you really want Virgin Media to increase the prices of the TV service?

Virgin can do nothing about unreasonable broadcasters like Sky, launch a XXL TV Pack (with Sky Movies and Sports SD and HD, BoxNation, Both Premier Sports Channels, Asia Mela, Sky Atlantic SD and HD, Sky News HD, Al Jezzera and Sky Sports 3/4/F1/News HD and others) so that we can still get the channels (for people who want them), even if it will cost quite a lot!

If you think that the broadcasters are acting reasonalble, they you might as well contact them directly!

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Originally Posted by m419

Broadcasters are under estimating the benefits of Virgin Media's TV platform, just under 4 million TV customers short of viewing there channels and that means lost advertising revenue. Broadcasters also have the ability to supply Virgin Media with TV on demand content.

With the loss of the Sky basic channels, Sky knew it had to do something as it was losing money, a USP lost them money. It is the same with Sky Anytime, the more features and content from Sky Virgin TV has, the more people that will be interested in taking up Sky's premium channels.

Sky Movies Collection looks more attractive at £19.50 per month rather than nearly £22, the cheaper it gets, the more subscribers it gets and the more money Sky can make.

It's simple, some people don't want Sky and want Virgin TV, that way they still manage to make money from the people who won't or can't join.

I would agree with you on that!!

[m419]

People won't pay that!

That's why people resort to the internet and other sources.

BET
BET+1
MTV Classics
MTV Music
MTV Shows
CBS Drama
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD
Food Network
Russia Today
Fox News
Fashion TV
Deutsche Welle(DW TV)
JSTV (Available on Virgin Media Analogue)
PCNE (Premium channel)
Hellenic TV (Premium Channel) (Was available on North London Analogue until closure)
Channel S
Dance Nation TV
Bubble Hits
Flava
The Vault
ITV HD Channels 2,3 and 4
Universal HD
History HD
Style Network
Travel Channel
MGM HD

Are all channels that people want! Especially round here

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by m419

People won't pay that!

That's why people resort to the internet and other sources.

BET
BET+1
MTV Classics
MTV Music
MTV Shows
CBS Drama
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD
Food Network
Russia Today
Fox News
Fashion TV
Deutsche Welle(DW TV)
JSTV (Available on Virgin Media Analogue)
PCNE (Premium channel)
Hellenic TV (Premium Channel) (Was available on North London Analogue until closure)
Channel S
Dance Nation TV
Bubble Hits
Flava
The Vault
ITV HD Channels 2,3 and 4
Universal HD
History HD
Style Network
Travel Channel
MGM HD

Are all channels that people want! Especially round here

the sooner we get those channels the better!

[m419]

Some of those are foreign language and community channels,so don't know if it is up your street Alan haha But off a mixed background and the multicultural area London is i'm sure it will serve a wide audience here.

By the way some of the channels above used to broadcast on Virgin Media in the NTL areas like Bubble Hits,Flava and Dance Nation TV. DW-TV,Travel Channel and Fashion TV used to broadcast on Virgin Media in the Telewest areas.

Hellenic TV used to broadcast on Virgin Media Analogue in the Telewest(Cable London) North London area(Camden,Harringey,Enfield,Hackney and Islington) to serve the Greek community and it is not available on Sky and many people are complaining about its availability.

JSTV is only available on Virgin Media Analogue in the Milton Keynes area, which to me makes sense when the Japanese population is next to nothing haha

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

the sooner we get those channels the better!

And l am sure some will arrive at the station in due time Alan.

[m419]

I think the first to come will be the ITV HD channels, followed by Sky Atlantic towards the end of the year