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Old 30-01-2012, 14:00   #526
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Do you mean like these ones we have, or are negotiating with (bilaterally, not as part of the EU), such as Singapore, USA, Canada, Mexico, Free Trade Area of the Americas (34 countries), Bangladesh, China, India, Japan, Australia, South Korea, Malaysia, Taiwan, amongst others?
Yes, a sort of Commonwealth Free Trade Area
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Do you mean like these ones we have, or are negotiating with (bilaterally, not as part of the EU), such as Singapore, USA, Canada, Mexico, Free Trade Area of the Americas (34 countries), Bangladesh, China, India, Japan, Australia, South Korea, Malaysia, Taiwan, amongst others?
I was just searching for that info. Thanks Hugh

So in fact we already trade with most of the world and don't need any fancy USOE or need to be IN the euro
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16803157

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Twenty-five of the EU's 27 member states have agreed to join a fiscal treaty to enforce budget discipline.

The Czech Republic and the UK refused to sign up. The UK's position was already well known, while the Czechs cited "ratification reasons".
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So does this mean the Germans get to parachute in there fiscal control people to those who do not play the EU game as per this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16773974
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So does this mean the Germans get to parachute in there fiscal control people to those who do not play the EU game as per this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16773974
I suspect that may give some to pause for thought because that would really considered a direct attack on sovereignty of nations.Cue for even more riots.
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This means that we are are even closer to a United States of Europe, but whenever we join it is a another matter...
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This means that we are are even closer to a United States of Europe, but whenever we join it is a another matter...
There is no chance of us joining it.
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There is no chance of us joining it.
It either the United States of Europe or the United States of America we would end up joining
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It either the United States of Europe or the United States of America we would end up joining
No we are the good old British Isles and most people want it to stay that way.
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No we are the good old British Isles and most people want it to stay that way.
Well whatever we do, we are ultimately controlled from China
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Well whatever we do, we are ultimately controlled from China
History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans
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History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans
You are right, Britain is a hard place to invade, just ask the Germans, Romans and French!
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History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans
Exactly and you know your British history very well as well.
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You are right, Britain is a hard place to invade, just ask the Germans, Romans and French!
You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....
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You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....
But they had a hell of a hard time, lost a lot of men (not always Roman admittedly), couldn't conquer some parts (Scotland for instance) and finally left down-beat and sodden (due to our lovely weather)
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