Football Season 2011/12 - Page 169

thenry · 15-01-2012, 16:58

that still image of the foot on Rambos leg.. urgh!!!

**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 17:03

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that still image of the foot on Rambos leg.. urgh!!!

It wasn't enough force to do damage, but enough contact to con the ref.

denphone · 15-01-2012, 17:03

Tell me about it as it seems these decisions are affecting matches week in and week out and yet nothing is done about the inconsistent refereeing we have before us.

**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 17:05

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Tell me about it as it seems these decisions are affecting matches week in and week out and yet nothing is done about the inconsistent refereeing we have before us.

I don't think you can blame the ref, it looked like a penalty to me and even the initial replays seemed to confirm it. You blame the player for the dive but he got his team a goal so it is what it is.

denphone · 15-01-2012, 17:57

Russ will be happy because its 2-1 to the Swans.

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**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 18:00

Another poor performance, disappointing. Really need to start getting our full backs back. I can't believe Sky awarded Dyer man of the match because of his goal and he won the penalty, awarding people for conning the ref.

thenry · 15-01-2012, 18:08

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Another poor performance, disappointing. Really need to start getting our full backs back.

having no real fullbacks is just scratching the surface with regards to the issues at Arsenal.

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I can't believe Sky awarded Dyer man of the match because of his goal and he won the penalty, awarding people for conning the ref.

he didn't con the ref, he showed trickery to get the peno, his foot landing on Rambos leg was unfortunate. with 2 extra eyes it could have gone the other way. as for motm.. he caused mayhem busting a gutt, good for him.

**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 18:21

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he didn't con the ref, he showed trickery to get the peno, his foot landing on Rambos leg was unfortunate. with 2 extra eyes it could have gone the other way. as for motm.. he caused mayhem busting a gutt, good for him.

Nah, as soon as he felt contact he went to ground and then had a massive smirk on his face. He knew what he was doing, he did play well tho.

DocDutch · 15-01-2012, 18:22

Dont know what Arsenal need at the moment but we are just not scoring enough goals and letting too many in.

1st of all Arshavin really needs to go as he is useless nowadays only good thing he done is those 4 goals against Liverpool a couple of seasons ago and thats it.
Walcott not sure he has potential perhaps he has just been put out of position

thenry · 15-01-2012, 18:35

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Nah, as soon as he felt contact he went to ground and then had a massive smirk on his face. He knew what he was doing, he did play well tho.

I didn't see the smirk

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Dont know what Arsenal need at the moment but we are just not scoring enough goals and letting too many in.

1st of all Arshavin really needs to go as he is useless nowadays only good thing he done is those 4 goals against Liverpool a couple of seasons ago and thats it.
Walcott not sure he has potential perhaps he has just been put out of position

What Arsenal need to do is,

clear out those out of contract in the summer now!
buy Gourcuff and M'Villa, using a little force could get both of them during this window. Gourcuffs isolated and needs to be sold. M'Villa needs his national spot held down so any forceful move for him could prove successful.
loan a decent experienced fullback

the rest can be sorted out in the summer including clearing out the rest of the deadwood and buying

**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 18:37

We do need a new CM, Striker and left back. Remember the amount of players to come back however. We had 3 out of 4 first team defenders out today.

denphone · 15-01-2012, 18:41

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We do need a new CM, Striker and left back. Remember the amount of players to come back however. We had 3 out of 4 first team defenders out today.

Yes and we need a creative midfielder and a out and out goalscorer as well.

thenry · 15-01-2012, 19:04

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We do need a new CM, Striker and left back. Remember the amount of players to come back however. We had 3 out of 4 first team defenders out today.

Almunia, Mannone.. may be Fabianski need to go. Santos is some Lidl purchase that needs to be sold in the summer. Gibbs and versatile Jan Vertonghen is what we need. Djourou needs to be sold, he's just a frustrating mediocre player. Squid earns way too many quids alongwith the rest of the flops draining the clubs resources.

Arshavin, Rosicky, Diaby, Yossi, Park, Denilson, Bendtner... Vela?

Wenger not the board, Wenger has led us into this mess. complete neglect and foolish faith. hes riding his luck out with full back too, I doubt we'll see one incoming during this window.. he keeps banging on about how far some of the injuried players are from coming back. Tommy at LB makes me sick.

out of contract this summer, only a handful of players out of the long list draining this club,

Manuel Almunia
Lukasz Fabianski
Vito Mannone
Tomas Rosicky
Andrey Arshavin

his bank manager/football manager mind frame, plan doesn't make sense. him and his squad are flops.

**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 19:16

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Wenger not the board, Wenger has led us into this mess. complete neglect and foolish faith. hes riding his luck out with full back too, I doubt we'll see one incoming during this window.. he keeps banging on about how far some of the injuried players are from coming back. Tommy at LB makes me sick.

I think this is quite disrespectful towards Wenger, accusing him of neglect is out of order. This has been a difficult season but we should not turn on the manager so readily, especially when you consider all he has done for the club.

He isn't riding his lack of full backs, we have four full backs out. Four. Not only the two first team full backs but also their cover and another CB out on top of that. There is only so much he can do. We can't have 6 full backs in the first team squad, hell, we're only allowed to register 25 players anyway.

Wenger's made mistakes but he has worked miracles with the budget he has, and that is the boards concern. A bad season and some fans are levelling accusations of neglect at him.

thenry · 15-01-2012, 19:26

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I think this is quite disrespectful towards Wenger, accusing him of neglect is out of order. This has been a difficult season but we should not turn on the manager so readily, especially when you consider all he has done for the club.

no it isn't. Wenger has neglected this squad not signing additional players prior to all this but instead brought in flops and put way to much faith in flops. he continues to put way too much faith in flops.

Wengers done a lot I know but looking back he inherited a backbone that needed to be polished up, hes great at that. hes not great on building a squad from scratch though.

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He isn't riding his lack of full backs, we have four full backs out. Four. Not only the two first team full backs but also their cover and another CB out on top of that. There is only so much he can do. We can't have 6 full backs in the first team squad, hell, we're only allowed to register 25 players anyway.

can't really argue with that. you know for Arsenal to registered an incoming signing they will either have to sell or take one off the current list. home grown etc. rules.

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Wenger's made mistakes but he has worked miracles with the budget he has, and that is the boards concern.

miracles? have you seen the wage bill, some of the salaries flops are on? thats nothing short of stupidity. as for signings, he has funds.. the board are not eating away all of it.. Wengers just trying to be too smart and its going to backfire big time soon, he's already had warnings.

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A bad season and some fans are levelling accusations of neglect at him.

this comment isn't from one season Damien, its gone on for a while now.