Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
10-01-2012, 22:31
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
A top post from Chad , the main reason I'll give Netflix a go is for the TV Boxsets some of which I haven't seen , Breaking Bad as an example.
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Breaking Bad is fantastic
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10-01-2012, 22:58
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
I regard the Lovefilm streaming content as an extra freebie to my Blueray rental.
For 9.99, I get 2 bluerays at home at any one time. Their turn around is very quick, so in theory, you could possibly get 4 films a week, so, 16 HD films with HD audio, a month for 9.99
HD films from sky, is very expensive in comparison and for me, just not worth the extra cost.
Netflix looks interesting; they don't have as much streaming content as Lovefilm, but my initial thoughts is that netflix has better content, with some in HD and 5.1 audio.
If I contiue with netflix after the free trial, as well as Lovefilm, it's stil a lot cheaper than Sky movies.
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11-01-2012, 00:27
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Totally agree.
I've noticed that the majority of posters in this thread either have V+, TiVo or SKY+. If people take time out, and review the week ahead on free to air TV, they can record plenty of quality films which will certainly surpass the content on Picturebox and will really give Lovefilm and Netflix a run for their money. I don't understand why people would pay to watch movies that are no better than those offered on free to view TV. I can understand about TV boxsets on Lovefilm and Netflix but not the limited selection of movies.
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Netflix and Lovefilm have deals for the 2nd Pay-TV windows. As such, new films would arrive on those services before Terrestrial TV.
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11-01-2012, 02:08
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Netflix and Lovefilm have deals for the 2nd Pay-TV windows. As such, new films would arrive on those services before Terrestrial TV.
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Not necessarily for all movie studios. You'll also find that the 2nd pay TV window will only give Netflix and Lovefilm between 60 & 90 days of exclusivity prior to the film arriving on terrestrial TV. It's interesting as just like SKY the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 have pre-existing deals with the various movie studios for content.
Here is a list of the current studio deals, according to various threads on Digitalspy.
BBC - Ardman Animation, BBC Films,Dreamworks, Dreamworks Animation, Walt Disney (inc. Disney Channel Original Movies, Pixar, Touchstone)
ITV - 20th Century Fox (pre 2009, repeat rights retained), Universal Pictures, Warner Bros.
Channel 4 - 20th Century Fox (post 2009), Film 4 Productions, New Line Cinema, Paramount Pictures, StudioCanal, Summit Entertainment
Channel 5 - Sony Pictures
I still don't see the appeal of this for "movie fans". If a movie fan didn't go to the cinema to watch a new film at release, didn't download it illegally, didn't buy it on DVD, didn't rent it from the video shop, didn't purchase it on Filmflex, didn't watch it on SKY Movies or catch it on SKY Anytime why would they then pay Netflix or Lovefilm to stream it almost 18 months later? Can't they just wait another month or two to catch the movie on terrestrial TV?
I know it comes across that I'm just knocking the service but I simply don't see the appeal. For TV boxsets both seem to offer a good service but how can paying to watch 18 month old movies be appealing?
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11-01-2012, 21:05
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Not necessarily for all movie studios.
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You're right, WB 2nd-TV window is exclusive to movie studios. I should have mentioned that last night but I was tired. 
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I know it comes across that I'm just knocking the service but I simply don't see the appeal. For TV boxsets both seem to offer a good service but how can paying to watch 18 month old movies be appealing?
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At the end of the day, I welcome the choice Netflix and Lovefilm potentially offers. If I want to want to watch say, The Expendables tonight in HD, I can. I don't have to search TV schedules for when its on Terrestrial TV. Sure, I could wait.....but why should I when there's a choice not to?
And lets not forget, quite a few movies available on Flimflex are old as well (and cost almost the same as an equivalent Lovefilm streaming only sub when watched in HD).
Horses for courses I guess . There's loads of other potential VOD apps which VM could be offering on TiVo, there's around a dozen such apps on my Sammy TV alone, along with apps on Xbox, PS3, Boxee, WDTV, Apple TV etc. TiVo shouldn't be standing still compared to devices like that.
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11-01-2012, 21:15
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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You're right, WB 2nd-TV window is exclusive to movie studios. I should have mentioned that last night but I was tired.
At the end of the day, I welcome the choice Netflix and Lovefilm potentially offers. If I want to want to watch say, The Expendables tonight in HD, I can. I don't have to search TV schedules for when its on Terrestrial TV. Sure, I could wait.....but why should I when there's a choice not to?
And lets not forget, quite a few movies available on Flimflex are old as well (and cost almost the same as an equivalent Lovefilm streaming only sub when watched in HD).
Horses for courses I guess . There's loads of other potential VOD apps which VM could be offering on TiVo, there's around a dozen such apps on my Sammy TV alone, along with apps on Xbox, PS3, Boxee, WDTV, Apple TV etc. TiVo shouldn't be standing still compared to devices like that. |
If they work for you then got for it buddy. I'm not sold just yet. One potential bonus is a price war on streamed content. The winners here are people with an appetitie for streamed services.
If Netflix or Lovefilm can grab a few 1st pay-TV window deals from SKY, game on!
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11-01-2012, 21:59
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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If they work for you then got for it buddy. I'm not sold just yet. One potential bonus is a price war on streamed content. The winners here are people with an appetitie for streamed services.
If Netflix or Lovefilm can grab a few 1st pay-TV window deals from SKY, game on!
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Hopefully the Competition Commission will break up that Sky Movies Monopoly, no-one can compete with them when they have Exclusive 1st Pay Window/Subscription VOD TV deals with all six major Hollywood studios.
Cheaper movies for everyone I say, regardless of what platform or provider they're with.
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11-01-2012, 22:01
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Hopefully the Competition Commission will break up that Sky Movies Monopoly, no-one can compete with them when they have Exclusive 1st Pay Window/Subscription VOD TV deals with all six major Hollywood studios.
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Totally agree with that , just wish I'd confidence in regulatory intervention.
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12-01-2012, 12:11
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Originally Posted by Chad
Not necessarily for all movie studios. You'll also find that the 2nd pay TV window will only give Netflix and Lovefilm between 60 & 90 days of exclusivity prior to the film arriving on terrestrial TV. It's interesting as just like SKY the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 have pre-existing deals with the various movie studios for content.
Here is a list of the current studio deals, according to various threads on Digitalspy.
BBC - Ardman Animation, BBC Films,Dreamworks, Dreamworks Animation, Walt Disney (inc. Disney Channel Original Movies, Pixar, Touchstone)
ITV - 20th Century Fox (pre 2009, repeat rights retained), Universal Pictures, Warner Bros.
Channel 4 - 20th Century Fox (post 2009), Film 4 Productions, New Line Cinema, Paramount Pictures, StudioCanal, Summit Entertainment
Channel 5 - Sony Pictures
I still don't see the appeal of this for "movie fans". If a movie fan didn't go to the cinema to watch a new film at release, didn't download it illegally, didn't buy it on DVD, didn't rent it from the video shop, didn't purchase it on Filmflex, didn't watch it on SKY Movies or catch it on SKY Anytime why would they then pay Netflix or Lovefilm to stream it almost 18 months later? Can't they just wait another month or two to catch the movie on terrestrial TV?
I know it comes across that I'm just knocking the service but I simply don't see the appeal. For TV boxsets both seem to offer a good service but how can paying to watch 18 month old movies be appealing?
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I thought Warner Brothers Owned New Line (NLC), this wolud mean the rights to NLC films came with WB film and yet WB films are on ITV and NLC films are with C4
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12-01-2012, 13:33
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
I've signed up to the Netflix 1 month trial and was browsing the films last night on my PS3 app. I have to say, it is pretty impressive for £5.99 a month. And if their promise of more content is true it looks to get even better. I started watching the film "The Contract" last night. This was in HD (720p I believe) with 5.1 surround sound. The quality was easily on par with a Sky Movie HD channel. Very impressed. Just needs more content.
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12-01-2012, 13:36
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Totally agree with that , just wish I'd confidence in regulatory intervention.
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Yes l agree as its so long winded and Sky always seem to throw obstacles in the way to hold up and disrupt regulatory proceedings.
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12-01-2012, 15:42
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12-01-2012, 16:44
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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Doesn't help the cause. CC should stand firm against the studios.
This is good, but price bidding wars always increases end user pricing
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Netflix CEO Reed Hastings this week told paidContent he could bid against Sky Movies for top-tier rights and he doesn’t need to depend on the Competition Commission to do it.
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12-01-2012, 21:42
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
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I've signed up to the Netflix 1 month trial and was browsing the films last night on my PS3 app. I have to say, it is pretty impressive for £5.99 a month. And if their promise of more content is true it looks to get even better. I started watching the film "The Contract" last night. This was in HD (720p I believe) with 5.1 surround sound. The quality was easily on par with a Sky Movie HD channel. Very impressed. Just needs more content.
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I also got the 1 month trial on my Xbox and I'm also very impressed with the quality.If the collection of films gets bigger and widens in scope I'll be happy.
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13-01-2012, 01:36
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
I was love film I thought their streaming awful Netfilm is better quality and is cheeper....
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