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Old 09-01-2012, 23:32   #16
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Old 09-01-2012, 23:41   #17
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May not be streaming but LoveFilm is the cheapest way of watching HD blu ray movies £2.50 a rental and how much is FilmFlex again £4.99
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Old 10-01-2012, 00:06   #18
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May not be streaming but LoveFilm is the cheapest way of watching HD blu ray movies £2.50 a rental and how much is FilmFlex again £4.99
With superior AV quality as well compared to anything Flimflex offers, especially when comparing the bitrate to Blu Ray.

I can't see how the likes of Flimflex can continue to charge those kind of prices. OK, you get the 1st run films on there but for the price of one HD film, you can get a month's worth of unlimited streaming from Lovefilm OR almost 2 Blu Ray rentals.
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Old 10-01-2012, 00:58   #19
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
I signed up for netflix free trial on my ps3, some decent stuff and shows not shown before, also 24 is in hd for the seasons it broadcasted in that format, would be great to see this on TiVo, but with many of these shows already on ondemand I wonder if virgin would consider it.
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Maybe VM will launch Lovefilm and Netflex via Tivo in the near future, so it is possible to stream shows via your Virgin STB
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
I signed up to netflix free trial last night and my initial reaction, which might be unfair, was that I was disappointed with the quantity, and age, of the content. I'm all for making it available as a Tivo app to give customers more choice, but I can't yet see that it's much better than a well managed suggestions folder coupled with Virgin's already very good on demand offering. If anything, I think it would be a reasonable companion for freeview or free sat customers-certainly not an obvious threat to three pay TV platforms.
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
I think one of the problems here is that people think that subscribed (and not PPV) content will be all new releases, Just look though at Lovefilm.. the latest films added (Dark Knight, Gran Torino and The Hangover are at very least 30 months old.. Lovefilm does have newer films including HD streaming of the new films but this isn't covered by the subscriptions.
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
Signed up for the month free trial, got it on the PS3 so streaming very simple.

Looks good from 1st look through the content

Hopefully VM will release a TiVo App soon
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Yes this a threat to Virgins tv market there broadband market will continue for the forseeable future to be unaffected. I am close to cutting my TV service off the only thing stopping it is sport. Movies and tv shows are covered by either neflix/lovefim or buying of itunes or the DVD box sets. A legal way for sport is the killer until this resolved for the most part Virgin and Sky will be sheltered. If the rumoured news that Apple and Google looking at the streaming rights of games then are in trouble.
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
If Netflix vastly up the amount of content over time anyone with VM BB wanting to stream Netflix HD will probably need at least 50mb to avoid falling victim to traffic management at certain times. Could be an area where VM will see profits rise.
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Maybe VM will launch Lovefilm and Netflex via Tivo in the near future, so it is possible to stream shows via your Virgin STB
Did an article on my blog last night about this (points at signature). VM are missing a great, great opportunity here! They have the only PVR with its own cap-free, STM-free, broadband connection. No other platform/PVR has this.

VM should be pushing TiVo as the best PVR for movie-lovers:

  • Access to Sky Movies? Yeah.
  • Access to Sky Anytime Movies on Demand? Yep!
  • Access to Filmflex? OK.
  • Access to Netflix? Yep.
  • Lovefilm? Of course.
  • Need an existing broadband connection? LOL, don't be silly!
  • Bandwidth capped while watching any of this stuff? Hell no!
  • STMed while watching any of this content? Nope!
I sincerly hope we don't get an endless drip of promotional apps instead of apps for Lovefilm, Netflix and other VOD services, we have plenty of promotional tat already in TiVo's app page (Sky Movies/Sports, Harry Potter, Twlight, VM Shorts).


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I think one of the problems here is that people think that subscribed (and not PPV) content will be all new releases, Just look though at Lovefilm.. the latest films added (Dark Knight, Gran Torino and The Hangover are at very least 30 months old.. Lovefilm does have newer films including HD streaming of the new films but this isn't covered by the subscriptions.
True, but Lovefilm's recent 2nd pay TV deals (I think one of them is an exclusive with Warner Brothers) means this situation will improve. Even more so if OFCOM grow a pair and break Sky's hold of the UK movie market.
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True, but Lovefilm's recent 2nd pay TV deals (I think one of them is an exclusive with Warner Brothers) means this situation will improve.
Which is the only reason why they have Dark Knight and Hangover but they are still 2+ years old. For newer films you'd need a combination of Netflix, Lovefilm, Video Unlimited (Sony's PPV system now called Qurocity) and probably a few others to get a decent range.
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Which is the only reason why they have Dark Knight and Hangover but they are still 2+ years old. For newer films you'd need a combination of Netflix, Lovefilm, Video Unlimited (Sony's PPV system now called Qurocity) and probably a few others to get a decent range.
Worked out the other day that if I stayed on my Lovefilm package (3 Blu Ray rentals + 2 hours of steaming per month) + Netflix, that would come to just under £11. £2 more if I added unlimited streaming from Lovefilm. I could live with that, that would be less then watching 3 HD movies from Flimflex in a single month.

For anyone interested in who's got what:
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-n...uk-pricepoint/

  • Netflix says it has film and TV from All3Media, BBC Worldwide, CBS, Channel 4’s 4oD, Disney UK & Ireland, ITV, Lionsgate UK, MGM, Miramax, Momentum Pictures, NBCUniversal, Paramount, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox and Viacom International Media Networks.
  • In the pay-TV movie window, Sky Movies currently has exclusive deals with Hollywood’s six largest studios (Sony, Disney, 20th Century Fox, Paramount, Warner Bros. & Universal) for linear and SVOD via subscription.
  • In the second pay-TV movie window, Lovefilm has exclusive deals with Sony Pictures and Warner Bros., as well as delas with Entertainment One, Studio Canal (formerly Optimum Releasing), Disney, Lionsgate and Momentum. In TV, Lovefilm just signed deals to add archive ITV and BBC Worldwide shows.
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Yes this a threat to Virgins tv market there broadband market will continue for the forseeable future to be unaffected. I am close to cutting my TV service off the only thing stopping it is sport. Movies and tv shows are covered by either neflix/lovefim or buying of itunes or the DVD box sets. A legal way for sport is the killer until this resolved for the most part Virgin and Sky will be sheltered. If the rumoured news that Apple and Google looking at the streaming rights of games then are in trouble.
Virgin is more of a Internet company than a TV company anyway, this could mean the end of sky, also, I better get my Apple HDTV soon then!

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Worked out the other day that if I stayed on my Lovefilm package (3 Blu Ray rentals + 2 hours of steaming per month) + Netflix, that would come to just under £11. £2 more if I added unlimited streaming from Lovefilm. I could live with that, that would be less then watching 3 HD movies from Flimflex.

For anyone interested in who's got what:
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-n...uk-pricepoint/

  • Netflix says it has film and TV from All3Media, BBC Worldwide, CBS, Channel 4’s 4oD, Disney UK & Ireland, ITV, Lionsgate UK, MGM, Miramax, Momentum Pictures, NBCUniversal, Paramount, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox and Viacom International Media Networks.
  • In the pay-TV movie window, Sky Movies currently has exclusive deals with Hollywood’s six largest studios (Sony, Disney, 20th Century Fox, Paramount, Warner Bros. & Universal) for linear and SVOD via subscription.
  • In the second pay-TV movie window, Lovefilm has exclusive deals with Sony Pictures and Warner Bros., as well as delas with Entertainment One, Studio Canal (formerly Optimum Releasing), Disney, Lionsgate and Momentum. In TV, Lovefilm just signed deals to add archive ITV and BBC Worldwide shows.
I hope we do get Neflex and Lovefilm soon on VM

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Do you if Amazon will buy Netflex?
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Re: Are Lovefilm & Netflix a threat to Virgin?
Yet each film is available to rent from your local blockbusters for 99p each as they're not new releases..

Lovefilm may improve but atm it's not worth a constant subscription
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