Diane Abbott apologises in 'race' row

Originally Posted by Russ

And Giggsy is Celtic white - I am the same.

OK so we have -

Pastey white
Dirty Creamy white
Celtic white

Any other to add to the list?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

OK so we have -

Pastey white
Dirty Creamy white
Celtic white

Any other to add to the list?

Off white?

Seriously though, don't you know us 'whites' are all the same......

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by kingll

John Terry being prosecuted and being guilty are two differrent things.

Do you mean "being guilty" or "being found guilty"? You are punished in court if you admit guilt, or are found guilty. It's entirely possible to actually be guilty without being found guilty. Look at the previous trial of Gary Dobson and David Norris. They were clearly guilty (as evidenced by the results of the trial that ended today), but were acquitted, not found guilty.

Originally Posted by Osem

Off white?

nah ,you just need a wash

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

nah ,you just need a wash

Do you know my wife says that....

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

OK so we have -

Pastey white
Dirty Creamy white
Celtic white

Any other to add to the list?

Chalky white.

Originally Posted by Osem

Do you know my wife says that....

Maybe you should take the hint

Then you could be pastey white

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Do you mean "being guilty" or "being found guilty"? You are punished in court if you admit guilt, or are found guilty. It's entirely possible to actually be guilty without being found guilty. Look at the previous trial of Gary Dobson and David Norris. They were clearly guilty (as evidenced by the results of the trial that ended today), but were acquitted, not found guilty.

I may be wrong but I'll wager that unless he's a dyed in the wool Cheslea fan, our 'royal' correspondent will find Terry guilty no matter what the verdict. That's justice for you...

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Russ

Suarez and Atkinson were dealt with, they both lost out because of their actions. Terry's situation isn't over yet so we don't know what will happen but if he's found guilty he will be dealt with too.

And Giggsy is Celtic white - I am the same.

Sir, Ryan Giggs dad is not white sir he is mixed race

[Russ]

Originally Posted by kingll

Sir, Ryan Giggs dad is not white sir he is mixed race

He's still white, unless you consider someone's colour to be based on their ancestory instead of what colour their skin actually is?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by kingll

What is the lifestyle of an MP

A privileged one

so her being middle class and kids going private school make her privileged.

Compared to most of the country. Yes, certainly makes her kids privileged

Sir, no no no

. Er....... Yes, yes, yes,

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Originally Posted by Russ

He's still white, unless you consider someone's colour to be based on their ancestory instead of what colour their skin actually is?

In that case we're all mixed race, go back through virtually every western family tree and there will be a black relation.

Hell, go back to the Dawn of man and I think you'll find we're all African.

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Originally Posted by Damien

I certainly don't think there is such a thing as black priviledge.

but there are privileged blacks

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Pierre

A privileged one



Compared to most of the country. Yes, certainly makes her kids privileged

. Er....... Yes, yes, yes,

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In that case we're all mixed race, go back through virtually every western family tree and there will be a black relation.


Hell, go back to the Dawn of man and I think you'll find we're all African.

Indeed, go back up my family tree three hundred years, and you'd come to the conclusion I'm either Iranian or Spanish..

Originally Posted by Pierre

but there are privileged blacks

Yes but I think there are two different definitions here. There are black people who live a privileged lifestyle clearly. However I read it as meaning to refer to a group of people in general, a group in society....

Maybe it's easier to leave the word privilege out of it and instead talk about how race can affect your opportunities in society and the likelihood of reaching the top of a profession. It's certainly a more interesting discussion than if there are black people who have a decent lifestyle.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yes but I think there are two different definitions here. There are black people who live a privileged lifestyle clearly. However I read it as meaning to refer to a group of people in general, a group in society....

Maybe it's easier to leave the word privilege out of it and instead talk about how race can affect your opportunities in society and the likelihood of reach the top of a profession. It's certainly a more interesting discussion than if there are black people that have a decent lifestyle.

I don't disagree,

But the reason I am pushing the point is because of the juxtaposition of a ,clearly, privileged black person playing the hard done to.

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Russ

He's still white, unless you consider someone's colour to be based on their ancestory instead of what colour their skin actually is?

He's still white????? there that white privilege for you