rail racism...

[Derek]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Possibly but for all we know they may well have been talking to the police, they have been informed after all.

A spokesman for the British Transport Police said: 'We have received a complaint of assault. We are investigating the circumstances surrounding the incident and our inquiries are ongoing.'

Only now, he wasn't interested before the clip went viral, in fact I'm pretty sure his explanation of how he came about his injuries didn't include him telling a conductor to *bleeeep* off.

I'd also imagine his new found desire for justice might have something to do with a criminal injuries claim or no-win, no-fee lawyer having a word about compensation.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Derek

I'd also imagine his new found desire for justice might have something to do with a criminal injuries claim or no-win, no-fee lawyer having a word about compensation.

He can thank "The big man" and Youtube for that.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

Only now, he wasn't interested before the clip went viral, in fact I'm pretty sure his explanation of how he came about his injuries didn't include him telling a conductor to *bleeeep* off.

I'd also imagine his new found desire for justice might have something to do with a criminal injuries claim or no-win, no-fee lawyer having a word about compensation.

I'm pretty sure you can't claim criminal injuries if you were involved in a criminal/ anti social activity when you were hurt or indeed if you have a criminal record for certain things.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Derek

Only now, he wasn't interested before the clip went viral, in fact I'm pretty sure his explanation of how he came about his injuries didn't include him telling a conductor to *bleeeep* off.

You could look at it from many angles Derek.

one being that the big fat man may not have known that he told the conductor to *bleeeep* off. and he came along and man handled the kid throwing him off the train from a height resulting in injuries being sustained.

another that we allow assaults on those that we pick and choose to.

the third one which is highly unlikely is that the big fat man seen an opportunity to be a hero.

all of which if an allegation of assault has been made then it will be followed through, and probably resulting in a compensation payout, and the possibility of an assault charge on the big fat man.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Hardly trying to blag a free ride was he and besides when I was last a regular train user the difference between single and return tickets was abour 10p.

Sam's uncle, who asked not to be named, claimed Sam did have a ticket, but it was the wrong one.

So he didn't have a ticket then!!!

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He said Sam went to the railway station at Polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak.

So why didn't he buy two tickets then??


You don't really believe his sob story do you?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I'm pretty sure you can't claim criminal injuries if you were involved in a criminal/ anti social activity when you were hurt or indeed if you have a criminal record for certain things.

I'm not so sure about that. You hear about it all the time.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He said Sam went to the railway station at Polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak.

Which is utter bollards and takes mere seconds to prove false. A peak return between Polmont and Edinburgh Park is cheaper than two singles.

This is exactly the sort of excuse that brain-dead Neds and their families come up with after the fact when someone has the cheek to catch them out.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

I'm not so sure about that. You hear about it all the time.

We may also refuse or reduce an award because of:

• your behaviour before, during or after the incident in which you were injured
• your criminal record

http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/c...ible/index.htm

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

So why didn't he buy two tickets then??


You don't really believe his sob story do you?

Err he did buy 2 tickets, singles apparently and it's not so much whether I believe him as I think there may be more to it than has yet been reveled.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Which is utter bollards and takes mere seconds to prove false. A peak return between Polmont and Edinburgh Park is cheaper than two singles.

This is exactly the sort of excuse that brain-dead Neds and their families come up with after the fact when someone has the cheek to catch them out.

I have been saying that all along, except when I used trains a lot the difference between single and return was negligible

tbf, his uncle stated he did buy two tickets, and no further evidence has been produced to back up this hearsay.

Also, he didn't try to sort it because he had an exam, and instead of sorting it after the exam he went and got bloatered instead?

Occam's Razor does spring to mind (and not in a ned/chibbing interface scenario sort of way...).

[thenry]

heres another... think the thread title needs changing now

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-web-row.html

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

I hope the guy that pushed him off gets done for assault.

The dancer wasn't doing anything wrong - as far as I know its not illegal to dance on the tube.

That looks like a set-up to me.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I have two opinions on this matter, I am NOT racist in any form, l live next door to a Somalian family and we get on very well.

BUT, my main criticism of this whole matter is, what if the ball was on the other foot, l have been many places and been called many foul names, including a very nasty word, and NOTHING was done.

Here you have a person who has been shouting her mouth off on a train, and the whole issue has been blown up, she has now been nick, and so she should.

It has to be equal that if people from other countries call us something racial, then we should be allowed to take action also.

And regarding the guy on the train, l would not like to be in the other guys shoes as he committed the assault, and he cannot say that he didn't, its on film - so it could be Balinnie for him for Xmas, and it is clear assault.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I have two opinions on this matter, I am NOT racist in any form, l live next door to a Somalian family and we get on very well.

BUT, my main criticism of this whole matter is, what if the ball was on the other foot, l have been many places and been called many foul names, including a very nasty word, and NOTHING was done.

Here you have a person who has been shouting her mouth off on a train, and the whole issue has been blown up, she has now been nick, and so she should.

It has to be equal that if people from other countries call us something racial, then we should be allowed to take action also.

And regarding the guy on the train, l would not like to be in the other guys shoes as he committed the assault, and he cannot say that he didn't, its on film - so it could be Balinnie for him for Xmas, and it is clear assault.

How do you know other countries don't take action? Just because you got called something and no one took action doesn't mean nothing ever gets done. There are a lot of cases, even in this country, where people are racially abused and nothing is done.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I am talking about in THIS country. Do you ever hear of when a Brit takes such action following racial comments.

And once again l am NOT racist.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I am talking about in THIS country. Do you ever hear of when a Brit takes such action following racial comments.

Not really.

And once again l am NOT racist.

Yeh, that's what they all say