TiVo : General TiVo Discussion Part 2

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Ben, I was pretty sure I read somewhere that the red button for mutli-screen for BBC and Sky was going to be introduced on TIVO by the end of the year. Did i dream it??? (it's quite possible) If I did is there any word on when it might come. I'm holding off on Tivo until it's working....cheers pal

Its highly likely to come in the first quarter of 2012 but Ben will know more but HE is unlikely to reveal much because of NDA'S.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

You would think so and then Virgin Media could just put the Live events on channel 0 on Tivo like all the other Virgin Media boxes.

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Ok let's forget about the red button apps coming with the update.

They will still be a update in January/Q1 2012 and which going by what i have read will make Multiroom streaming fully enabled and there is probably other things not annouced yet.

I am really hoping Express Series Link is made user configurab​le in the January/Q1 2012 update

OMG Don't you listen. There is NO update coming in the new year. Red button is enabled in the box, its just the apps need released and they DO NOT need an update, they are just rolled out when they are available. Same goes for MRS, it just needs a switch flicked to turn it on.

Also as there is no update in January there is no chance of the express link changing.

[Perfect Choice]

Originally Posted by Stephen

OMG Don't you listen. There is NO update coming in the new year. Red button is enabled in the box, its just the apps need released and they DO NOT need an update, they are just rolled out when they are available. Same goes for MRS, it just needs a switch flicked to turn it on.

Also as there is no update in January there is no chance of the express link changing.

Red Button which actually does something useful and what everybody else knows as "Red Button", i.e. what we had on V+ on channels like BBC, is NOT enabled i.e. what is now is a pile of cr*p which is why you see comments from users wanting the "real" red button. It might be a case of activating so not an update agreed but it is not there now in what people expected, especially new Tivo users who then realise what is missing.

Not expecting an update in January but certainly better be at some stage in 2012. If VM think 15.2 sorted everything out on Tivo then think again. The product is not even stable right now with issues like iPlayer performance/reliability.

Express series link is an exceptionally bad implementation and cannot believe VM wil be stupid enough to leave it as it is. Get it sorted VM, if they had any sense they would implement changes in the next update whenever that may be!

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by Stephen

OMG Don't you listen. There is NO update coming in the new year. Red button is enabled in the box, its just the apps need released and they DO NOT need an update, they are just rolled out when they are available. Same goes for MRS, it just needs a switch flicked to turn it on.

Also as there is no update in January there is no chance of the express link changing.

I know that red button (apps) do not need a update. They could if they wanted to release the red button apps with the update which in my opinion will happen in Q1 2012.

The New youtube app is a example of a new app coming with a update.

I still think there will be a update in Q1 2012.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

I know that red button (apps) do not need a update. They could if they wanted to release the red button apps with the update which in my opinion will happen in Q1 2012.

The New youtube app is a example of a new app coming with a update.

I still think there will be a update in Q1 2012.

Apps of any kind do not need an update to be rolled out. The Youtube app would have happened with or without an update.

There will not be an update as there isn't any planned for the near future.

[zekeisaszekedoes]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Just select from My Shows while recording and it will start from the beginning

Another way, possibly faster... while in full-screen TV mode, press info, scroll down to the ® icon, press right, choose the stream with up/down (if needed), press right, then hold down the |<- button for a few seconds to jump to the start of the recording. Then enjoy timeshifted viewing; if you've left enough time before watching you can fast-forward through the breaks and catch up with the program at the end.

Wow, that looks a lot more complicated when written down. It's not though, honest!

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

I would that is why I do not pay £15 for live events

Really? If I'd booked a £15 PPV on my TiVo there's no way I wouldn't record it and keep it for months.

Originally Posted by Majordude

As a rule if you press record while viewing, a programme will record:-

1. from the start and can be found in my shows providing you are less than 30 minutes in as this is the maximum size of the buffer which will be stitched on the front; or

2. Everything after the last channel change for that tuner.

Good tip, but the buffer is a max of 60 minutes rather than 30.

Originally Posted by borrissey

When a film has a rating out of 4 stars where does that come from? Can you rate the films?

I asked that over on VM Community... they come from Tribune etc. Using the Roger Ebert style four-star with halves method, but those are NOT his rankings.

Originally Posted by Mad Bee

What an absolute joke iPlayer on TiVo is.

The lack of multi screen was a shambles from the start but a software update that renders the service virtually unusable. :shakesheadindisbeliefsmilie:

I'm starting to feel like I'm the only one who has good results from iPlayer. It was shaky a week ago but since then HD and SD streams have been flawless.

Originally Posted by Stephen

OMG Don't you listen. There is NO update coming in the new year. Red button is enabled in the box, its just the apps need released and they DO NOT need an update, they are just rolled out when they are available. Same goes for MRS, it just needs a switch flicked to turn it on.

I know that was an irate answer but the info is pretty useful, nice short definition of the red button features coming as apps. Hopefully less buggy/features missing than the ones already on there.

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Red Button which actually does something useful and what everybody else knows as "Red Button", i.e. what we had on V+ on channels like BBC, is NOT enabled i.e. what is now is a pile of cr*p which is why you see comments from users wanting the "real" red button. It might be a case of activating so not an update agreed but it is not there now in what people expected, especially new Tivo users who then realise what is missing.

As someone who never bothered with red button features, could you explain what's missing?

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Not expecting an update in January but certainly better be at some stage in 2012. If VM think 15.2 sorted everything out on Tivo then think again. The product is not even stable right now with issues like iPlayer performance/reliability.

It's a YMMV issue... mine is working fine.

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Express series link is an exceptionally bad implementation and cannot believe VM wil be stupid enough to leave it as it is. Get it sorted VM, if they had any sense they would implement changes in the next update whenever that may be!

I think Express Series Link is a great idea, all we need is ability to change defaults via TiVo UI. I almost always want "new & reruns, all episodes, keep until delete, no padding" so being able to choose that would make the TiVo much less fiddly. It's a shame TiVo isn't more like XBMC, where if something can't be altered by GUI you can edit the skin XML files and add the option(s) you need.

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Sorry for the long multi-quote post, just a lot of points I wanted to make...

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Red Button which actually does something useful and what everybody else knows as "Red Button", i.e. what we had on V+ on channels like BBC, is NOT enabled i.e. what is now is a pile of cr*p which is why you see comments from users wanting the "real" red button. It might be a case of activating so not an update agreed but it is not there now in what people expected, especially new Tivo users who then realise what is missing.

Not expecting an update in January but certainly better be at some stage in 2012. If VM think 15.2 sorted everything out on Tivo then think again. The product is not even stable right now with issues like iPlayer performance/reliability.

Express series link is an exceptionally bad implementation and cannot believe VM wil be stupid enough to leave it as it is. Get it sorted VM, if they had any sense they would implement changes in the next update whenever that may be!

What I mean is the facility for them to work is in the software.

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

I know that was an irate answer but the info is pretty useful, nice short definition of the red button features coming as apps. Hopefully less buggy/features missing than the ones already on there.

Well I think it will be in the form of an app as thats the way that iPlayer was done.

[Perfect Choice]

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

As someone who never bothered with red button features, could you explain what's missing?



It's a YMMV issue... mine is working fine.



I think Express Series Link is a great idea, all we need is ability to change defaults via TiVo UI. I almost always want "new & reruns, all episodes, keep until delete, no padding" so being able to choose that would make the TiVo much less fiddly. It's a shame TiVo isn't more like XBMC, where if something can't be altered by GUI you can edit the skin XML files and add the option(s) you need.

Red Button - all the information sevices, news, etc plus red button also used for multiple matches at the same time e.g. Wimbledon/Football - that one really annoys people who like red button to change over to other matches

YMMV Issue - was referring to Tivo generally not just iplayer, it is definitely NOT the finished product by a long stretch. Just go over the VM Support forum and catch the thread on those returning Tivo's

Express Links - agree a good idea but badly implemented for several reasons one of which you mentioned namely user configurable; back to back padding implications also has to be addressed, it is worse than what the Sky box does on this, see http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...-O/td-p/913291

Overall I do like Tivo though so don't get me wrong here when I do criticize it. Just don't want VM to take their focus away from progressively improving it. 15.2 update can only be the start and it is not just about new features but improving what is there already.

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

I'm starting to feel like I'm the only one who has good results from iPlayer. It was shaky a week ago but since then HD and SD streams have been flawless.

Well you not. BBC iplayer is working fine for me.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Red Button - all the information sevices, news, etc plus red button also used for multiple matches at the same time e.g. Wimbledon/Football - that one really annoys people who like red button to change over to other matches

YMMV Issue - was referring to Tivo generally not just iplayer, it is definitely NOT the finished product by a long stretch. Just go over the VM Support forum and catch the thread on those returning Tivo's

Express Links - agree a good idea but badly implemented for several reasons one of which you mentioned namely user configurable; back to back padding implications also has to be addressed, it is worse than what the Sky box does on this, see http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...-O/td-p/913291

Overall I do like Tivo though so don't get me wrong here when I do criticize it. Just don't want VM to take their focus away from progressively improving it. 15.2 update can only be the start and it is not just about new features but improving what is there already.

some are just drama queens though

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

Well you not. BBC iplayer is working fine for me.

me too

Well no TIVO for me until red button multi screen is up and running... I can wait!!! I have no probs with my Samsung box...

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Well no TIVO for me until red button multi screen is up and running... I can wait!!!

DF has said there will be a full red button/interactive service by the end of march.

BBC red button (BBCi App), ITV red button App, Sky Sports red button App might eariler going by what i have been told.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

DF has said there will be a full red button/interactive service by the end of march.

BBC red button , ITV red button , Sky Sports red button might eariler going by what i have been told.

Been told by whom and when?

[HD Boy]

I was told by Virgin Media twitter team that there are working hard to bring out the bbc red button and ITV red button this year. I was told that 9 days a go.

Also the sky sports red button just needs to be given the go ahead and we will have it. Ken1234 told me that

[denphone]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

I was told by Virgin Media twitter team that there are working hard to bring out the bbc red button and ITV red button this year. I was told that 9 days a go.

Also the sky sports red button just needs to be given the go ahead and we will have it. Ken1234 told me that

It will not come this year as we are only one and a half weeks to Christmas day so be patient and it will come in its own due time.