TiVo : General TiVo Discussion Part 2

[STONEISLAND]

Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison

I too like the skip back feature of the fast forward, however I do wish that Virgin didn't nanny the speed for the UK. When fast forwarding at x3 the skip back is a huge 30 seconds (15 secs @ x2 & 0 secs @ x1) which would be okay if the speed of the fast forward was fast! If you look at the rewinding speed which is twice that of the fast forward speed, the skip back feature is almost magical when traveling at a good rate of knots. With the current speed you have to wait till you see a good chunk of the program in order for the skip back to rewind to a place you want and those with good reflexes could be sitting through 15+ seconds of adverts.

So what I'm trying to say is either increase the fast forward speed by 50% (which I'd prefer) or reduce the skip back by 50% to give us what I think the feature was designed.

Cannot believe Im the only one who hates this feature

Agreed 10 sec is more then enough 30 way too much!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND

Cannot believe Im the only one who hates this feature

Agreed 10 sec is more then enough 30 way too much!

Well everybody has a different opinion on here and thats what makes this forum so great.

[tycho]

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND

Is there a way to turn off the rewind 10 sec when you press play after fast forwarding? Why do they have this feature this day in age people are quick with pressing play at the right time without it rewinding 10 seconds!!

To answer your actual question, rather than simply tell you it's a great feature so learn to love it like everyone else seems to be doing!

No - I don't beleive it is possible to turn the feature off, however a 'work around' if you really don't like it is to press Pause rather than play.

I know this sounds like a naff solution as it requires 2 buton presses not one (Pause, followed by play), however, trust me, you soon get into a nice knack of a sort of 1 'rolling' buton press of the thumb hitting the pause button and allowing your thumb to then roll up and hit the play almost simultaniously.

It's either that of re-train yourself to be slightly slower on the quick draw

Cheers
T

[STONEISLAND]

Originally Posted by tycho

To answer your actual question, rather than simply tell you it's a great feature so learn to love it like everyone else seems to be doing!

No - I don't beleive it is possible to turn the feature off, however a 'work around' if you really don't like it is to press Pause rather than play.

I know this sounds like a naff solution as it requires 2 buton presses not one (Pause, followed by play), however, trust me, you soon get into a nice knack of a sort of 1 'rolling' buton press of the thumb hitting the pause button and allowing your thumb to then roll up and hit the play almost simultaniously.

It's either that of re-train yourself to be slightly slower on the quick draw

Cheers
T

Did not know I could do that with the pause button thanks

[andy_m]

Isn't it funny-Tivo's best feature as far as I'm concerned. I was so fed up of doing it manually with sky+ and then v+. However, yet again Tivo's lack of configurability (real word?) is the problem-trying to resolve issues with one size fits all solutions. Virgin won't win people over in the numbers it needs/wants until it empowers the end user.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by andy_m

Virgin won't win people over in the numbers it needs/wants until it empowers the end user.

To be honest though that can cause as many problems as it solves.

The more granular you allow things to be changed, the more you have to test and the more you risk things breaking.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to change anything, but some things have to be considered 'core' functionality

[Mr K]

Is Iplayer/red button/reminders not working a 'core' functionality of TiVo?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Is Iplayer/red button/reminders not working a 'core' functionality of TiVo?

Those are seperate things as you are well aware

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Those are seperate things as you are well aware

But still a great MISTAKE to not install from the start. Just look at the numbers asking were they are

[Lew]

And can you imagine the complaints if they'd waited until that was ready before launching? As it is, there were loads of posts here prior to the launch complaining that they had to wait.

[Joedm45]

I personally think that TiVo has improved so much and it is easy to forget that it has only been around for a year in the homes of a chosen few and only a few months to Joe Public.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Joedm45

I personally think that TiVo has improved so much and it is easy to forget that it has only been around for a year in the homes of a chosen few and only a few months to Joe Public.

Yes l am of the same opinion as Tivo has only just started and is already very good and it will only get better as time goes on.

[kgollop]

Originally Posted by tonycee

I love this feature, also works well on reverse wind too

I think it's great on fast forward, though I find it a bit annoying on rewind though. I often find I press play when it's fast forwarding and the remote ignores my play request as it isn't pointing right at the box. I then find myelf rewinding back then pressing play and ending back where I started!

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

To be honest though that can cause as many problems as it solves.

The more granular you allow things to be changed, the more you have to test and the more you risk things breaking.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to change anything, but some things have to be considered 'core' functionality

We're only talking about being able to change your own padding defaults and the ability to turn step back after fast forward on and off, not full control over the whole box. I accept your point about too much user control, but that's not what the majority of people want, just some limited control over the niggly little things that won't affect the way Tivo works but will improve the end user experience immeasurably.

Tivo is a brilliant product, but you're letting it and yourselves down when people are actively avoiding it simply because they want to be able to be in control of their own series links. I mean seriously, who allowed the current solution to express series links to go out? That should never have left the office. Even if I could live with the default padding, I still have to set up series links manually because I deliberately got myself a stb which was capable of storing more than 10 episodes of a particular show and has enough storage to mean I can keep then almost indefinitely without encountering issues. Poor.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Lew

And can you imagine the complaints if they'd waited until that was ready before launching? As it is, there were loads of posts here prior to the launch complaining that they had to wait.

Is Iplayer/red button/reminders not working a 'core' functionality of TiVo?

That was the right thing to do; everyone won.

Those who wanted it early and were prepared to have it with a few features missing were happy and those who wanted it fully featured wait. They don't have to wait any longer than if Tivo had been held back until everything was done (but they'd still be waiting now, and some possibly still are). Meanwhile, I've had around 8 months of vastly increased functionality.

And Reminders being 'core' functionality on a PVR where all (3) tuners record, is wrong in my view. A nice extra; maybe, but not core; not if the PVR is being used as intended.

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Originally Posted by andy_m

I mean seriously, who allowed the current solution to express series links to go out? That should never have left the office..

Completely agree. Then we get the Spotify app with no search or shuffle. It's a little worrying.