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Old 04-12-2011, 16:57   #61
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Re: Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & dat

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Being called a paranoid is a bit strong don't you agree Martyh.
Sadly I think 'paranoid' is a fair assessment, given the number of posts made in this thread on the basis of assumptions that are simply not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.
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Sadly I think 'paranoid' is a fair assessment, given the number of posts made in this thread on the basis of assumptions that are simply not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.
But we have seen these things before and our trust has been abused as we see by the many bits of private information that leaks out or gets misplaced in the wrong hands so l do not think paranoid is a fair assumption of many of us Chris .
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But we have seen these things before and our trust has been abused as we see by the many bits of private information that leaks out or gets misplaced in the wrong hands so l do not think paranoid is a fair assumption of many of us Chris .
care to give some examples of leaked personal info .Yes there have been cases where information has been lost or left on a laptop somewhere but to my knowledge none have led to a explosion of id theft or ambulance chasing lawyers .Most of your details i.e name address ect are already available anyway from the council register commonly sold to companies for mail drops and cold calling
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care to give some examples of leaked personal info .Yes there have been cases where information has been lost or left on a laptop somewhere but to my knowledge none have led to a explosion of id theft or ambulance chasing lawyers .Most of your details i.e name address ect are already available anyway from the council register commonly sold to companies for mail drops and cold calling
Yes you can say that again as sometimes l get 4 or 5 instances of cold calling a week sometimes.
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Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & data

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Sadly I think 'paranoid' is a fair assessment, given the number of posts made in this thread on the basis of assumptions that are simply not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.
so is this silly name calling allowed !!!

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But we have seen these things before and our trust has been abused as we see by the many bits of private information that leaks out or gets misplaced in the wrong hands so l do not think paranoid is a fair assumption of many of us Chris .

Agreed.

If it only ever goes out in anonymised versions then we don't have a problem that's true.

However we all know how over time we see the loosening of what was agreed where money has an influence. Money especially if its multi millions as one poster puts it has a lot of sway. Bottom line for me is i don't trust them to stay good to there word because there is potentially ££££ involved and history has seen goal posts moved by money.
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so this name calling is allowed !!!




Agreed.

If it only ever goes out in anonymised versions then we don't have a problem that's true.

However we all know how over time we see the loosening of what was agreed where money has an influence. Money especially if its multi millions as one poster puts it has a lot of sway. Bottom line for me is i don't trust them to stay good to there word because there is potentially ££££ involved and lots of ££££ and history has seen goal posts moved by money.
Exactly.
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Yes you can say that again as sometimes l get 4 or 5 instances of cold calling a week sometimes.
Proof that your details are already out there then
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All you paranoids seem to be forgetting that all your personal details are already at the mercy of unscrupulous nurses ,doctors and admin staff within the NHS .
Try to keep it grown up please

They HAVE to have the data to do there job.
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Proof that your details are already out there then
Yes and most of us are not happy about our details being used or abused in these ways.
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Proof that your details are already out there then
Proof that big business finds a way to get the data if there is money involved. I know there is no proof yet that this will be sold but if the Government is involved then money will be involved.
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Proof that big business finds a way to get the data if there is money involved. I know there is no proof yet that this will be sold but if the Government is involved then money will be involved.
Yeh, but think of the plus side. it might mean they don't put 1p on a litre of fuel, and the cost of fags only go up by 20p and not 30p
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Yeh, but think of the plus side. it might mean they don't put 1p on a litre of fuel, and the cost of fags only go up by 20p and not 30p
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Do remember this is personal choice and myself and many others would choose not to allow any access to our medical records whatsoever.
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