Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & data

[mertle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16021240

Absolute disgrace by Cameron if this goes ahead. Talk about patient confidentiality. Cameron going too far now in the quest to try find a pot gold under his bed.

How will this great bright spark hair brained idea be policed. Aha new QUANGO regularity body will have to be done so firms dont abuse the information.

Then the argument whose the data is owned like artistical rights its my body so surely its my DATA not camerons to choose and sell. If they as example SELL MY DETIALS then should I not own those rights therefore its MY MONEY not NHS not Governments. The cheque in post should be coming to the door of my home. So surely there its my HUMAN RIGHT to tell cameroon to go where the sun dont shine.

Words fail me how cameron scraping the barrell.

[deadite66]

Doesn't surprise me DVLA already sells information you legally have to supply.
this was why i was so opposed to the ID Card, you just know the government will end up selling this data.

[Peter_]

You can opt out but you have to request it which is quite wrong but I for one will opt out if this foolhardy scheme ever sees the light of day as I would give any cold caller the very sharp edge of my tongue if they ever called me or contacted me in any way.

My medical records are mine and they are private and not for general perusal by any profit hungry group of sharks.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Masque

You can opt out but you have to request it which is quite wrong but I for one will opt out if this foolhardy scheme ever sees the light of day as I would give any cold caller the very sharp edge of my tongue if they ever called me or contacted me in any way.

My medical records are mine and they are private and not for general perusal by any profit hungry group of sharks.

I for one will be opting out.

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Originally Posted by mertle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16021240

Absolute disgrace by Cameron if this goes ahead. Talk about patient confidentiality. Cameron going too far now in the quest to try find a pot gold under his bed.

How will this great bright spark hair brained idea be policed. Aha new QUANGO regularity body will have to be done so firms dont abuse the information.

Then the argument whose the data is owned like artistical rights its my body so surely its my DATA not camerons to choose and sell. If they as example SELL MY DETIALS then should I not own those rights therefore its MY MONEY not NHS not Governments. The cheque in post should be coming to the door of my home. So surely there its my HUMAN RIGHT to tell cameroon to go where the sun dont shine.

Words fail me how cameron scraping the barrell.

Originally Posted by deadite66

Doesn't surprise me DVLA already sells information you legally have to supply.
this was why i was so opposed to the ID Card, you just know the government will end up selling this data.

Who gave the DVLA permission to sell our information ???


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Just found some info and it seems it was When Watchdog first revealed the DVLA was selling on your details, there was outrage and the then-Labour Transport Minister Stephen Ladyman was even forced to respond, saying,

"Some time ago I announced we were going to do a thorough review of the circumstances in which the DVLA release private information."


So it looks like the tories are not the only **** allowing this sort of thing to happen

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I for one will be opting out.

I trust them as far as I could throw the Houses of Parliament and this proposed scheme proves how little you can trust any government in this country, I wonder if any of Cameron's pals have any vested interests in getting this information.

[Julian]

I won't be opting out.

Having had to use the NHS extensively in the recent past, I would be happy for my records to be used for research purposes. In fact during my treatment I agreed to students having access to me and my records to do this very thing.

If it helps save one life it's worth it.

[Paddy1]

How does one go about opting out?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Julian

I won't be opting out.

Having had to use the NHS extensively in the recent past, I would be happy for my records to be used for research purposes. In fact during my treatment I agreed to students having access to me and my records to do this very thing.

If it helps save one life it's worth it.

My problem is that someone will make money from it and i can bet now we will see an increase in opportunistic phone calls from medical insurance companies, just like we have now from the "where there is blame there is a claim ****". They can get info on accidents and other stuff from the DVLA from what i heard.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by deadite66

Doesn't surprise me DVLA already sells information you legally have to supply.
this was why i was so opposed to the ID Card, you just know the government will end up selling this data.

Yes, there will be promises of 'robust measures put in place to ensure the use of the data is not abused' until some IT boffin manages to crack their security and shows up the government.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Paddy1

How does one go about opting out?

If i find out i will post it here i can assure you of that

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Originally Posted by Russ

Yes, there will be promises of 'robust measures put in place to ensure the use of the data is not abused' until some IT boffin manages to crack their security and shows up the government.

Or we have laptops with access info left on trains, Coffee shops.

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Originally Posted by mertle

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Words fail me how cameron scraping the barrell.

Just like other PM's have done. He's not alone in this

Don't see the problem myself,allowing existing data to be used for research will save a lot of time in the developement of new drugs .I don't see that knowing a persons name will be of any benefit to the company using the data ,and yes ,charge the hell out of the drug companies for using the data they make enough from the sale of the drugs developed

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Masque

I trust them as far as I could throw the Houses of Parliament and this proposed scheme proves how little you can trust any government in this country, I wonder if any of Cameron's pals have any vested interests in getting this information.

agreed all parties are ****.

Why should we jump hoops to prevent it let me see there no doubt will say you have to write to them to opt out.

However I got impression this your GP or NHS to decide not US with the article. Who to say if we opt out we are opted out to speak we could very well never know if those details been sold on.

Problem is how do they get around already regularity rules such as DATA PROTECTION ACT.

I liken this breach like what BT internet users had with PHORM and in the end it was forced to be OPT IN rather OPT OUT.

Surely they should do the same

[Russ]

Originally Posted by mertle

I liken this breach like what BT internet users had with PHORM and in the end it was forced to be OPT IN rather OPT OUT.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by mertle

I liken this breach like what BT internet users had with PHORM and in the end it was forced to be OPT IN rather OPT OUT.

Surely they should do the same

Agreed anything like this should be an automatic opt out. Then if your happy to allow anyone they see fit (as long as they pay the blood money) to read all about you then you can opt in.

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Sirius

If i find out i will post it here i can assure you of that

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Or we have laptops with access info left on trains, Coffee shops.

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Just like other PM's have done. He's not alone in this

Indeed like I said there all **** look after there friends to hell with the electorate.

martyh I am suprised you dont see the alarm bells they are huge ringing. A company could sell on to sharks what safeguards are there no bogus company can get hold of it. Once the data out the control NHS it could be mal-used for unterior motives.

Its smokescreen fluff statement by our leaders to ally fears where data ends up. I dont even trust our Government civil servants they had enough lapsed stupid things go on over the years. Like the one where laptop was left in taxi. Tax man selling old pc's not wiped the data etc.

I think about time Data Protection has bit more teeth on regularity and government actions on personel data.