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Old 01-12-2011, 18:54   #1
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Virgin to Dell monitor

Hi all, some help would be appreciated

I have a standard virgin box in one room and would like to send the signal to a monitor in another room. The monitor only has a VGA input.
To add to this, I need to add some speakers to the receiving end of the signal so that sound can be heard.

I am thinking the following, but not sure if it will work:

virgin box > scart av wireless sender > receiver with RCA output > audio to speakers (not sure which yet, will be cheap ones though) and video to VGA via RCA to VGA connector.

Does the above sound like it would work?
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Old 01-12-2011, 23:13   #2
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

So long as the SCART outputs RGB then you should be fine, thickness of house walls depending.
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Old 01-12-2011, 23:28   #3
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

I personally haven't had a lot of luck converting SCART or Component picture to something a regular VGA monitor would understand correctly, but you might well do better. If you have all the equipment to do it on hand it's got to be worth a try, eh?
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

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I personally haven't had a lot of luck converting SCART or Component picture to something a regular VGA monitor would understand correctly
It's not easy. SCART has the sync on the composite video PIN, whereas VGA has separate syncs. You need something like this

http://www.maplin.co.uk/scart-to-vga...er-cable-37141

(And see the warning about sync rates)


The OP has a double problem because AFAIK there are no video senders that support RGB.

Small TVs are very cheap these days
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

Yep, £90 for a 19" with DVD.. Same thing would have cost nearly £200 a couple of years ago.
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:56   #6
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

Thanks all, looks like there might be some issues doing this then. Nightmare.
Yep, there are some cheap small tv's out there, was hoping this would be a cheaper option though (don't have the cables, sender or speakers yet). Seems that it will just be a pain and not really a cheap option lol.

Ah well
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

Cheap & cheerful idea:

If the monitor is on a PC, you could put the output of the video sender into a video capture card and watch it through the PC. And use standard PC speakers.
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Cheap & cheerful idea:

If the monitor is on a PC, you could put the output of the video sender into a video capture card and watch it through the PC. And use standard PC speakers.
Unfortunately not, its just a monitor that I have had for ages

---------- Post added at 11:15 ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 ----------

I guess I could pick up a cheap CRT and do the scart to scart wireless av. CRT's should be cheap as hell these days!
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

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It's not easy. SCART has the sync on the composite video PIN, whereas VGA has separate syncs. You need something like this

http://www.maplin.co.uk/scart-to-vga...er-cable-37141

(And see the warning about sync rates)
Exactly... not worth the risk/effort/cost in my opinion, especially as the results can often look worse than composite apparently.

I think the only luck I've had hooking up something made for regular TVs into a PC style monitor is using a VGA -> Component converter on one of my PS2 consoles, plugged into a Sony monitor and using a special piece of PS2 homebrew software to bump the display mode up into something the monitor would understand. Older CRTs like that work because Sony was a big supporter of Sync-on-Green, though oddly their newer LCD TVs don't support that on the VGA inputs which is disappointing in cases where the TV only has one Component input which is most of them these days. As a result, with my current TV I can't have both Xbox 1 and PS2 plugged in at once without using a Component splitter which introduces lots of noise to the picture.


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The OP has a double problem because AFAIK there are no video senders that support RGB.

Small TVs are very cheap these days
Exactly, a cheap panel TV which can easily move between display modes and types is by far the better option. They're basically the much-improved modern version of older multisync CRT monitors which were often expensive and disappointing.
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Old 02-12-2011, 13:25   #10
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

Yeah, looks like the best option is a cheap (no cheap second hand for some reason) LCD.
Are the scart to scart wireless senders any good?
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Old 02-12-2011, 23:15   #11
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Not particularly. Is there no way you could run a physical wire?
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Old 03-12-2011, 00:20   #12
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

Not really, the box n tv will be opposite ends of the house
Can't go drilling random holes and can't have cables running through rooms n door ways etc
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Re: Virgin to Dell monitor

Oh, you don't want to do long cable runs with unbalanced analogue cables. Signal degradation becomes a real issue and properly shielded versions tend to be expensive.

Depending on the distance, I'd recommend a HDMI splitter as even cheap LCD TVs tend to have HDMI inputs now. I have a 15m HDMI cable and it works perfectly... you could daisy chain them together with a signal booster and potentially get 30m or 45m, hopefully without visual artifacts like sparklies.
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Hi

Yes, recently I have connected Virgin V+ box with Dell Monitor. It is very simple straight forward but the HDMI wire will be needed for sending Picture and Sound.

I know it is something you don't want to consider but I am just adding here so, every one will be able to see it as I was not able to find the correct process when started lookign for it . Please follow below steps:

-First you need the HDMI cable. I bought 10m HDMI cable from amazon :
Ex-Pro Premium 10m Gold HDMI to HDMI Lead Cable (Check Amazon Site) - COst (8 pounds)

-Then you need hdmi spiltter. I used "FORPOWER 2 output 1 input 2 Port HDMI splitter" Cost 15 pounds (Check Amazon Site). You can ignore this if you want to watch TV only at one place at a time by changing the HDMI cable socket from back of Virgin box manually each time.

-Now, as you have Dell Monitor which does not have Sound & HDMI Port then I would recommend you to buy "HDMI to VGA Audio Video Converter 1080P - UK Plug" (Check Amazon site) Cost around 20 pounds. You will need to put HDMI cable socket as a input to this instrument(This will convert HDMI signal to Analogue- VGA & Sound). Sound Jack is available in the equipment. You can then connect your Dell Monitor to it via VGA and speaker Jack can go to this instrument.

-Last and very important bit is to operate your V+ remote from destination (the place where your Dell Monitor is). To resolve this you can buy "Marmitek PowerMid XL infrared extender set" (Check Amazon site) It will cost you around 26 pounds. Very easy to set just need to place one instrument near to V+ box and other into your room where you want to watch TV on your Dell Monitor.

-Optional step is to Mount your Dell Monitor on to the Wall. This bit every one knows

So, in total you will spend:

HDMI cable : 8
HDMI to VGA Audio Video Converter 1080P : 20
"FORPOWER 2 output 1 in 2 Port HDMI splitter: 15
Marmitek PowerMid XL infrared extender set: 26
Bracket for Wall Mount: 10
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Total 79 Pounds
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Comparison:
-New TV will cost you 150 for 24 inch LCD HD ready and you will still need above step but you can remove "HDMI to VGA convertor" saves 20 pounds but still need to pay 130 pounds more on top

Also, if you go for Multi room then you need to pay 50 pounds for the box installation if your box is free otherwise 50 pounds for the box too and monthly package cost

I have tried to help as I was not able to find above information when I was trying to do it.

Good Luck,
Kamal Gulati
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