14-11-2011, 19:12
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by Milambar
lol.
Ask 10 nerds which router to get, and get 20 different answers (each nerd giving two different replies depending on your circumstances).
OK, I know thats an exaggeration, but not a huge one. Which is the reason I refrained from suggesting a specific router. I am hearing good things about draytek and tplink these days, and I will admit the latest generation of netgears aimed at the domestic user aren't up to much.
I think the last good one they made was the WGR614-v6. Versions 1 through to 5 had an overheating issue. I can't comment on versions 7, 8 and 9, as I never used them.
I would concur with General Maximus, because I almost bought that very router once.
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Just as a note, the Netgear WNR1000v3 is the direct decendent of the WGR614 series. I had the WGR614v9 from VM and, with standard Netgear firmware, it was very reliable and sturdy.
I have now attached a WNR1000v3 to my Superhub to cover the 2.4GHz band (whilst by Superhub covers the 5GHz band). Most 2.4GHz equipment will either be G or N on a single spatial stream as battery powered kit needs to think about power conservation. In such cases an N150 router is all that is needed and as a bonus will trigger short guard intervals at 72meg mode on one channel and 150meg mode on two. As such, it will be even faster than the Superhub (or any N300+ router) when communicating with single spatial stream kit.
The WNR1000v3 is basically the WGR614v9 with a new colour scheme, N150 speeds and WPS + radio on/off buttons. Oh, and a guest network facility and QoS as well. It shares the same external colour scheme and user interface style with the Superhub (both being Netgear) and is a great compliment to the VM supplied Superhub.
The WNR1000v3 remains very sturdy and reliable as a wireless access point, never needing a reboot and giving good range.
Just so you know, the WGR614 quality is still available from Netgear.
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14-11-2011, 20:12
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Ran Away
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
I have now attached a WNR1000v3 to my Superhub to cover the 2.4GHz band (whilst by Superhub covers the 5GHz band). Most 2.4GHz equipment will either be G or N on a single spatial stream as battery powered kit needs to think about power conservation.
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I'll tell you what would make the superhub "super" and live up to the ultimate wireless experience bla bla bla; being dual band, which is what I am sure every family needs with the assortment of wireless devices that are around these days.
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14-11-2011, 21:57
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a giant headend
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Re: Wifi
Its wifi being able to penetrate more than one wooden floor/ceiling would have been a good start.
Router choices can be a minefield anyway, it all depends on what you want. I'm a power user so want one with decent signal strength that can handle custom firmware, so for me the Asus RT-N16 was perfect as it has a beast of a CPU (for a router) and as a result can run the most feature packed versions of Tomato and DD-WRT. Being able to get a signal from the bottom of the 130ft garden was also semi important). I would never recommend the Superhub to anyone though, unless it was to run it in modem mode with a standalone router.
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15-11-2011, 00:30
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
I'll tell you what would make the superhub "super" and live up to the ultimate wireless experience bla bla bla; being dual band, which is what I am sure every family needs with the assortment of wireless devices that are around these days.
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Why? It's better to just buy a cheap N150 router as I describe to use as an access point. Two transmitters are better than one for throughput. Plus I get the guard interval bonus as well. So, free Superhub (well, inclusive, no extra fee above normal line rental...) for upping to 50meg and all I had to pay for to make it better than a dual band hub is a cheap N150. Ker-ching!
So long as you don't want custom firmware and exotic stuff, the Shub seems to do well. Wireless is great for some and poor for others but the circumstances are so variable that all we can say on that score is use what works in your spot. It's a lottery whatever bit of kit you choose for any given RF environment it seems. I do wish, though, that there were more channels available in 5GHz mode on the Shub as there used to be but unfortunately VM culled those last firmware update with no explanation as to why. Perhaps VM are giving them a respray and they'll be re-added in the next firmware update?
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15-11-2011, 03:53
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
Just as a note, the Netgear WNR1000v3 is the direct decendent of the WGR614 series. I had the WGR614v9 from VM and, with standard Netgear firmware, it was very reliable and sturdy.
I have now attached a WNR1000v3 to my Superhub to cover the 2.4GHz band (whilst by Superhub covers the 5GHz band). Most 2.4GHz equipment will either be G or N on a single spatial stream as battery powered kit needs to think about power conservation. In such cases an N150 router is all that is needed and as a bonus will trigger short guard intervals at 72meg mode on one channel and 150meg mode on two. As such, it will be even faster than the Superhub (or any N300+ router) when communicating with single spatial stream kit.
The WNR1000v3 is basically the WGR614v9 with a new colour scheme, N150 speeds and WPS + radio on/off buttons. Oh, and a guest network facility and QoS as well. It shares the same external colour scheme and user interface style with the Superhub (both being Netgear) and is a great compliment to the VM supplied Superhub.
The WNR1000v3 remains very sturdy and reliable as a wireless access point, never needing a reboot and giving good range.
Just so you know, the WGR614 quality is still available from Netgear.
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I didn't realise it had a descendant at all, so thank you for this information. I strongly suspect I shall be ordering one next paycheck, provided I have no unexpected expenses
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15-11-2011, 08:38
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
Shub
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you are my saviour, I have been trying to work out what to call it for months now. I get told off for calling it the pooperhub and I have to bite my tongue calling it "super"hub.
From now on let it be know as the shub. So say we all
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15-11-2011, 22:59
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
you are my saviour, I have been trying to work out what to call it for months now. I get told off for calling it the pooperhub and I have to bite my tongue calling it "super"hub.
From now on let it be know as the shub. So say we all 
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Bring me... a Shubbery!
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Originally Posted by Milambar
I didn't realise it had a descendant at all, so thank you for this information. I strongly suspect I shall be ordering one next paycheck, provided I have no unexpected expenses 
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The shell of the WNR1000v3 is exactly the same as the WGR614v9, except it is in the new Netgear colour scheme and has holes for the wifi-off/WPS buttons. You'll see what I mean when I say it is a direct decendent, it is basically a 614 that's been given a boost. You'll like it if you liked the reliability of the 614.
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16-11-2011, 00:38
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Re: Wifi
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
Bring me... a Shubbery!
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Play world of warcraft much (its the name of a level 61 quest). Yes, I used to play world of warcraft farrrrr too much.
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16-11-2011, 01:36
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Re: Wifi
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Play world of warcraft much (its the name of a level 61 quest). Yes, I used to play world of warcraft farrrrr too much.
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I've never played WoW before. This is a miss-quote from 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'. Watch that scene with this community in mind then you'll get it.  ~
Ni! Nnnni!
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