Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
12-11-2011, 18:39
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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In there any chance in the near future of OFCOM ever forcing SKY to show all their sports channels in HD on VM?
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Only after extensive consultation would be my guess!!!!! the last OFCOM pay tv review lasted if my memory serves me correctly around three years and resulted in sky sports 1/2 HD on VM,and BT and Top Up TV getting access to sky sports SD 1/2,I would not hold your breath,its a long way away,unless SKY/VM come to an agreement on 3/4 HD,which is about as likely as King Canutes turning back the tide escapade imo.
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12-11-2011, 21:28
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Explain to me how VM are being short changed by Sky over Atlantic ?
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In Short VM had the rights to rebroadcast all of the ex virgin and Sky channels, Sky then removed some channels, but replaced them with others "outside" of this carriage agreement. Whilst completely legal and not breaking any rules, it was a little underhand IMHO. Maybe its just me...
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12-11-2011, 21:34
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by Niknod
In Short VM had the rights to rebroadcast all of the ex virgin and Sky channels, Sky then removed some channels, but replaced them with others "outside" of this carriage agreement. Whilst completely legal and not breaking any rules, it was a little underhand IMHO. Maybe its just me...
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Totally agree with you its well underhanded....sky are [Deleted].
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12-11-2011, 21:38
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Explain to me how VM are being short changed by Sky over Atlantic ? I personally feel VM Sky sports subscribers get short changed by not receiving HD3 and HD4 however Atlantic as never been part of any VM TV package. Sky are a business and as they own Atlantic its upto them what they do with Atlantic. They're not a charity.
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Originally Posted by Niknod
In Short VM had the rights to rebroadcast all of the ex virgin and Sky channels, Sky then removed some channels, but replaced them with others "outside" of this carriage agreement. Whilst completely legal and not breaking any rules, it was a little underhand IMHO. Maybe its just me...
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Originally Posted by windy
Totally agree with you its well underhanded....sky are [Deleted]. 
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I'm all for the free market, but there has to be measures in place to prevent a dominant pay TV provider exterminating any sign of healthy competition.
I have been in business for many years and Sky take things to a whole new level in sly underhand practices.
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12-11-2011, 21:53
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by Niknod
In Short VM had the rights to rebroadcast all of the ex virgin and Sky channels, Sky then removed some channels, but replaced them with others "outside" of this carriage agreement. Whilst completely legal and not breaking any rules, it was a little underhand IMHO. Maybe its just me...
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While I can see your point I'm afraid their now Sky's channels to do as they see fit whether we agree or not. Just out of interest how many have they actually closed Virgin1 , Bravo and the Sky Living Love spring to mind.
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Originally Posted by windy
Totally agree with you its well underhanded....sky are [Deleted]. 
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What about Sky Anytime , Sky Arts HD1 and 2 , Sky Classics HD , Sky Sports Red Button , I would say they more than compensate for the channels lost. Don't forget Skys own customers have also lost them.
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12-11-2011, 22:03
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
While I can see your point I'm afraid their now Sky's channels to do as they see fit whether we agree or not. Just out of interest how many have they actually closed Virgin1 , Bravo and the Sky Living Love spring to mind.
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What about Sky Anytime , Sky Arts HD1 and 2 , Sky Classics HD , Sky Sports Red Button , I would say they more than compensate for the channels lost.
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Firstly I make it six channels closed, Channel1, Channel1+1, Bravo, Bravo+1, Challenge Jackpot and Living Loves.... Secondly we don't disagree, Sky do have the right to do what they wish with their channels, I just feel it has been done in a underhand way. Wasn't the Sky Anytime, Arts HD and red button deals done before Sky decided to close the channels it had just bought? if so it was hardly compensation....
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12-11-2011, 22:06
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by Niknod
Firstly I make it six channels closed, Channel1, Channel1+1, Bravo, Bravo+1, Challenge Jackpot and Living Loves.... Secondly we don't disagree, Sky do have the right to do what they wish with their channels, I just feel it has been done in a underhand way. Wasn't the Sky Anytime, Arts HD and red button deals done before Sky decided to close the channels it had just bought? if so it was hardly compensation....
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http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2010/...ter-vmtv-sale/
http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...ution-1a1.aspx
Most of the content was moved to other channels.
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12-11-2011, 22:22
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Most of the content was moved to other channels.
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Such as (in the case of Star Trek...) Sky Atlantic.....
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12-11-2011, 22:31
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Such as (in the case of Star Trek...) Sky Atlantic.....
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I suppose we'll all have differing opinions , I personally never watched much of the channels binned. Im not a fan of many of Sky's practices especially withholding HD3 and HD4 to customers who pay full whack for the Sky Sports portfolio of channels nor do I like their stranglehold on movies however credit where credits due their products are generally pretty good. Sky keeping Atlantic exclusive is very reminiscent of when VM had Living HD as a platform exclusive , but hey thats how business is done these days with each company trying to have the upper hand.
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12-11-2011, 22:56
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I have been in business for many years and Sky take things to a whole new level in sly underhand practices.
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What?? With James Murdoch at the helm??? Surely some mistake???
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12-11-2011, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
Many thanks for that, the problem with VM just goes to prove, they get things wrong big time, once it is sorted out l will let you know what the problem is - l like to give them benefit of the doubt, l do have some good points, apart from whinging.
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I dont think your a winger I have had many complaints about virhin over the years
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13-11-2011, 09:51
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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What?? With James Murdoch at the helm??? Surely some mistake???
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13-11-2011, 10:06
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I'm all for the free market, but there has to be measures in place to prevent a dominant pay TV provider exterminating any sign of healthy competition.
I have been in business for many years and Sky take things to a whole new level in sly underhand practices.
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While I agree with your assertion I'm afraid most large companies behave in this way not that I'm condoning it of course , as an example just look at accusations re Anti competitive practices at the big worldwide tech companies. Any company with a great product will go to lengths to protect it , I'm afraid sometimes this can be seen as sly by outsiders.
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13-11-2011, 12:58
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
An Virgin Tester has told me the following over the weekend.
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Hi, the test on ch633 has gone, but a new test on ch890 called "Hidden 43" has appeared. That's it as far as I can tell.
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Maybe an new red button steam set to launch?
NOTE: I think ''Hidden'' means it not an TV Channel.
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13-11-2011, 14:11
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
Any idea if the Investigation Discovery channel will be shown on virginmedia?
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