Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Not so much frightened denphone i think in certain countries SKY/ESPN have a close relationship which means they simply will not take each other on in any meaningful way.

If they cosy up too much some people could accuse them of distorting the market to suit their own ends.

Originally Posted by denphone

If they cosy up too much some people could accuse them of distorting the market to suit their own ends.

Trouble is denphon that would have to be proved,i always remember a piece in the Guardian in which ESPN said in some areas they would compete in others they would not, ,and sky do ESPNS marketing in the uk so it does not take a lot of working out really.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...cup-sky-sports

Read the above link about theree quarters of the way down tells you how close the relationship is denphone.

Wolff says ESPN is happy for Sky to be the senior partner in the UK. "There will be markets where we bid against each other; there are other territories where we will not. You could have a very good second position in a market if that's the best business model you can build at that time." He adds: "We have a complex, multifaceted relationship with Sky [but] complex relationships aren't new to us. We just have to manage that."

[Felim_Doyle]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The full name for the V+ is 'V+ HD'

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

what Ben said

Plus new customers can only get V-HD or TiVo now.

Hmm! I must be gettin' old. I'm pretty sure when I had a similar discussion on here a couple of years ago, the consensus was that the V+ Box did not have HD in the name, even though it had HD in the functionality.

Now DF has introduced the V-HD Box! What's that?

It's the whole DVD+R/-R/+RW/-RW, HD DVD, Blu-ray fiasco all over again!!!

Just to recap ...

• I'm not a new customer
• I'm a long-standing XL customer
• I don't have a faulty V+ Box that needs to be replaced
• I may have a faulty V Box that needs to be replaced
• I don't feel I should have to pay for a TiVo Box just to get PVR functionality

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

i agree that it is quire rubbish, but so are many channels the uk (not sky atlantic, bbc c4 etc)

Why ask then ?

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by denphone

If they cosy up too much some people could accuse them of distorting the market to suit their own ends.

Just imagine though Den if they start trying to outbid each other , our subs would rocket and I'm pretty sure at the next contract renewal VM would find it hard to keep ESPN part of the XL package.

[gadge]

Originally Posted by denphone

Yes but they still seem to be frightened to take on Sky as they seem to be purchasing smaller sports rights.

Wait till the footy rights are up for grabs again then we will see if espn are scared to take on sky frightened i think not.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Just imagine though Den if they start trying to outbid each other , our subs would rocket and I'm pretty sure at the next contract renewal VM would find it hard to keep ESPN part of the XL package.

Presumably though muppetman if that were to happen sky might have to lower their price whilst ESPN increased theirs when losing rights, never going to happen though.

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Originally Posted by gadge

Wait till the footy rights are up for grabs again then we will see if espn are scared to take on sky frightened i think not.

Wolff says ESPN is happy for Sky to be the senior partner in the UK. "There will be markets where we bid against each other; there are other territories where we will not. You could have a very good second position in a market if that's the best business model you can build at that time." He adds: "We have a complex, multifaceted relationship with Sky [but] complex relationships aren't new to us. We just have to manage that."


Is what ESPN said earlier this year make your own mind up.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Presumably though muppetman if that were to happen sky might have to lower their price whilst ESPN increased theirs when losing rights, never going to happen though.

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Wolff says ESPN is happy for Sky to be the senior partner in the UK. "There will be markets where we bid against each other; there are other territories where we will not. You could have a very good second position in a market if that's the best business model you can build at that time." He adds: "We have a complex, multifaceted relationship with Sky [but] complex relationships aren't new to us. We just have to manage that."


Is what ESPN said earlier this year make your own mind up.

ESPN will stick to their main market the US

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Golf comes to ESPN.

http://www.c21media.net/news/detail....&article=63715

BDO World Professional Darts Championships comes to ESPN

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/darts/15569721.stm

Sorry if this has been posted already. I looked back through the thread first and couldn't see anything.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

ESPN will stick to their main market the US

Pretty much my view as well mate,they may well end up wth another premiership package next time around like setanta had, but that willl be about it in my view.As you say they will predominently stick to their main market.

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by Chad

BDO World Professional Darts Championships comes to ESPN

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/darts/15569721.stm

Sorry if this has been posted already. I looked back through the thread first and couldn't see anything.

So that's the BBC lost more sport coverage.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Just imagine though Den if they start trying to outbid each other , our subs would rocket and I'm pretty sure at the next contract renewal VM would find it hard to keep ESPN part of the XL package.

l am not sure subs would rise in a very tricky economic climate where they are fighting to keep every customer.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Pretty much my view as well mate,they may well end up wth another premiership package next time around like setanta had, but that willl be about it in my view.As you say they will predominently stick to their main market.

Yep that's pretty much how I see it panning out , its still a great result for VM subscribers as they would get 46 games included with XL instead of this years 23.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

So that's the BBC lost more sport coverage.

Unfortunately so.

Good news for boxing fans though. It's a rare outing for boxing on the BBC next weekend when they broadcast the British Championships next Saturday afternoon from 2:30pm.

Many of the fighters on show are competing for places in the GB squad for London 2012. It's a good chance to see the boxing stars of tomorrow, today!

Because it's not tucked away on the red button, we'll be able to enjoy this on BBC One HD.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Yep that's pretty much how I see it panning out , its still a great result for VM subscribers ad they would get 46 games included with XL instead of this years 23.

Yes no argument from me there mate VM subs do get a good deal on the XL package with ESPN, Not sure when the current deal ends though? hopefully a new one would be put in place.46 games would be pretty good value.