Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy - Page 3

**Hugh** · 25-10-2011, 17:12

Do not use words which invoke the swear filter - this is against Site T&Cs.

Ignitionnet · 25-10-2011, 17:14

It entirely depends what you do with your connection of course as to how inconvenient, or otherwise, a bit cap is.

If ISPs en masse started capping there may be a struggle for those downloading a ton to find places to go. It will be interesting to see what ISPs do in response to the new regulations.

kwikbreaks · 26-10-2011, 15:50

IMO what they should do is drop the unlimited claim. Of course they probably won't be doing that - my guess is that like BT they'll rely on shaping and the "upto" so you can't claim that limiting P2P and NNTP to speeds only slightly better than dialup is in fact a limited service. The problem with that is they can't or at least don't catch all heavy usage.

Maybe they'll go for something like a more gradual STM where speed reduces as the bits mount up. I think I may have already seen something like this but as my area is awaiting a fix as it's oversubscribed it's difficult to decide just why speeds have gone down the toilet.

m419 · 26-10-2011, 21:15

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Originally Posted by keepitretro

Hmm was keeping to downloading 9pm to 9am, when i first heard about the letter thingy but now there's no danger of a letter, im filling my boots while i can.....

I pay Â£42 a month for my internet, and for that amount you should be able to use it whenever you want for whatever YOU want to.

The removal of the word unlimited, not sure on that one, but having a limit on data each month would be the worst thing they could do in my opinion.

The comcast 100mb download speed and 300gb cap a month is an absolute joke if that kind of [Mod Edit] ever started here i would cancel asap as i think many others would

300Gb is a lot of data! They also want each household to purchase this broadband product, imagine if you started reselling it to your neighbours via wifi, if it was unlimited you would get away with it, by capping it, you are likely to keep it to yourself and not share it! I don't always believe that whole traffic management thing is done to stop an overload of traffic, why not just create more bandwith? They don't seem to have a problem with Businesses

**Hugh** · 26-10-2011, 21:20

Businesses pay a lot more than consumers (he says as someone who buys 100Mb and 1Gb links...).

keepitretro · 27-10-2011, 11:16

Never had a month where i do less than 1.7 tb!!!!.

But at the end of the day that's why i pay Â£42 per month!

Gary L · 27-10-2011, 12:59

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Originally Posted by keepitretro

Never had a month where i do less than 1.7 tb!!!!.

But at the end of the day that's why i pay Â£42 per month!

Geez, that's a lot of porn.

keepitretro · 27-10-2011, 13:28

Never have any speed issues with my connection either always get 51.4mb night or day.....

Ignitionnet · 27-10-2011, 13:33

You're in for some fun when traffic management version 2 kicks in, being based around both congestion and personal usage.

You shouldn't be paying Â£42/month though, should be Â£25. Well it should be more like Â£420/month but that's another story!

keepitretro · 27-10-2011, 15:00

Is that speculation i hear???

as that's all that seems to be around at the moment, nothing concrete..

ShadowTD · 27-10-2011, 15:18

1.7tb?

Dear sweet merciful biscuits. What *are* you pulling down? I'd presume whole series and films, but when would you ever get time to watch it all? I've always thought I used quite a lot of bandwidth and I rarely get over 120Gb a month.

Ignitionnet · 27-10-2011, 15:39

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Originally Posted by keepitretro

Is that speculation i hear???

Nope. Details to be confirmed but the overall scheme is potentially unpleasant for someone with your usage patterns.

Horizon · 31-10-2011, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Businesses pay a lot more than consumers (he says as someone who buys 100Mb and 1Gb links...).

And that's the whole reason why vm has traffic management/shaping during the daytime. Not because there are capacity problems, there aren't. The network is largely unused during the daytime and vm want to keep it that way so that they can utilise it for business use and make more money out of it.

I'm not against vm wanting to make as much cash as they can from their assets, but I wish they would be honest and state this clearly. As said here, if I pay a wad of cash to vm for internet use, I want to use it when I want to, not when VM want me to which is the middle of the night.

BenMcr · 14-11-2011, 17:02

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

The advertising of speeds doesn't affect VM, however the 'unlimited' section does, and basically the Detrimental Usage Policy is against those rules, so has to change or 'unlimited' has to go from the advertising by April 2012.

It's like you are psychic or something

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...cy/td-p/848899

The main changes include:

1. Section 3.2.1 on detrimental use has been removed.

muppetman11 · 20-11-2011, 17:01

Can anyone confirm , are VM thinking of opening the BB network to other companies , someone told me it was mentioned in the VM presentation below around 23 mins in. Not registered so haven't listened.

http://www.media-server.com/m/p/p8sx9tmt