10-10-2011, 10:54
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Re: Google Android
AFAIK these apps that move stuff to the SD card only automate what you can do manually. They don't move anything that you can move yourself. The Desire is very limited in terms of memory. So much so, that you can only install a crippled Gingerbread. Things aren't helped with Adobe bringing out a bloated 17 mb version of Flash that will only install to the phone memory.
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10-10-2011, 10:59
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Re: Google Android
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AFAIK these apps that move stuff to the SD card only automate what you can do manually. They don't move anything that you can move yourself. The Desire is very limited in terms of memory. So much so, that you can only install a crippled Gingerbread. Things aren't helped with Adobe bringing out a bloated 17 mb version of Flash that will only install to the phone memory.
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Which is the best phone in terms of memory.
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10-10-2011, 11:02
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Re: Google Android
I have no idea. However, it's a bit sad that the Desire (a cracking phone in all other aspects) which is just over a year old does not have sufficient memory to deal with the first Android upgrade that comes along.
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10-10-2011, 11:22
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Re: Google Android
Yes l totally agree and my next phone l buy will have to have far more internal memory before l buy it.
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10-10-2011, 12:48
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Re: Google Android
I use ZDbox which tells me what apps can be put onto a SD card, I then open it and I can select them and move them at the same time.
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10-10-2011, 16:59
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Re: Google Android
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Originally Posted by danielf
I have no idea. However, it's a bit sad that the Desire (a cracking phone in all other aspects) which is just over a year old does not have sufficient memory to deal with the first Android upgrade that comes along.
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Actually it did
The Desire came with Eclair (2.1) and got an update to Froyo (2.2) without much of an issue
For some reason the second update to Gingerbread (2.3) was the one that caused problems
Because of that I put Cyaogenmod 7 onto mine and it works fine
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10-10-2011, 17:41
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Re: Google Android
Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
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10-10-2011, 17:58
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Re: Google Android
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Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
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Never said it was acceptable, just pointing out the options
P.S. HTC have also made a Gingerbread update available for the Desire that doesn't require a root http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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10-10-2011, 18:06
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Re: Google Android
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Never said it was acceptable, just pointing out the options
P.S. HTC have also made a Gingerbread update available for the Desire that doesn't require a root http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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Yeah. Fair enough
I know about the update, and am still considering it. Not sure if it's worth it though.
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11-10-2011, 21:54
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Re: Google Android
im having a major issue atm with Android Market.
For some reason its not detecting the apps on my SD card where it once did before.
The Apps work fine yet i have to manually check each of them now to see if any updates as the Market doesnt detect it.
and i wish they would bring the gingerbread out for the Wildfire as theres a lot of uproar over the fact it may not be getting it even tho its a recient phone and is still sold.
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11-10-2011, 21:56
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Re: Google Android
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Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
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l will second that.
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11-10-2011, 22:03
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Re: Google Android
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Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
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I know of people who would happily root a iPhone 4GS the day they get it home from the shop.
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11-10-2011, 22:28
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Re: Google Android
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I know of people who would happily root a iPhone 4GS the day they get it home from the shop.
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Yes, but that is no excuse. You shouldn't have to do this on a relatively new phone. It's not strange to expect a £400 consumer product to be fit for purpose and have a reasonable amount of future-proofing. The fact that other people like to hack their phones is neither here nor there.
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im having a major issue atm with Android Market.
For some reason its not detecting the apps on my SD card where it once did before.
The Apps work fine yet i have to manually check each of them now to see if any updates as the Market doesnt detect it.
and i wish they would bring the gingerbread out for the Wildfire as theres a lot of uproar over the fact it may not be getting it even tho its a recient phone and is still sold.
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Are you having difficulty to make it show your apps? There's a 'my apps' button when you press 'menu' after opening the market.
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11-10-2011, 23:41
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Re: Google Android
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Originally Posted by Welshchris
im having a major issue atm with Android Market.
For some reason its not detecting the apps on my SD card where it once did before.
The Apps work fine yet i have to manually check each of them now to see if any updates as the Market doesnt detect it.
and i wish they would bring the gingerbread out for the Wildfire as theres a lot of uproar over the fact it may not be getting it even tho its a recient phone and is still sold.
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The desire struggled with gingerbread so the slower less powerful wildfire is even more unlikely to get the update.
I found that happened for some apps that were installed to SD card. Was annoying but it sorted itself eventually and the apps were in the list again.
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12-10-2011, 08:13
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Re: Google Android
wildfire s or just wildfire?
Actually looking further these are both most definitely beginner entry level phones, I'm not sure they'd be able to cope with the upgrade.
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