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Old 08-10-2011, 12:37   #3061
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

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well we can MM sky got a history of overcharging

why VM and bt win case about sky sports

why ofcom make sky lower price of sky movies

why woman in pub win batter about football on european channels

oh yes skys overcharging wasnt it
Flip the coin and what do we have ? A plethora of channels who claim VM wont pay for and claim they are too expensive to carry.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:43   #3062
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Flip the coin and what do we have ? A plethora of channels who claim VM wont pay for and claim they are too expensive to carry.
that dont hide the fact about skys history of overcharging yes they should get the fair price and not overcharged price thats my 2 big complaints about sky

1 them overcharging
2 with holding sky sports3+4 HD
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

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Flip the coin and what do we have ? A plethora of channels who claim VM wont pay for and claim they are too expensive to carry.
We will only ever hear biased reports from these talk as there are no impartial parties involved.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

Surely one persons over charging is another man's fair price? It's up to Virgin to make their service more attractive to potential customers not Sky.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

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that dont hide the fact about skys history of overcharging yes they should get the fair price and not overcharged price thats my 2 big complaints about sky

1 them overcharging
2 with holding sky sports3+4 HD
I agree withholding and exclusive channels isn't good but they all do it remember Living HD and Film 4 HD.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

Yes it goes both ways and both are to blame to some extent.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

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We will only ever hear biased reports from these talk as there are no impartial parties involved.
I agree hence my comment , we cannot say with any credence.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

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I agree withholding and exclusive channels isn't good but they all do it remember Living HD and Film 4 HD.
good point but sky own living now so not exclusive no more so vm got 1 exclusive channel and some on digital spy forum saying thats sky could be getting film4HD sometime this year
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good point but sky own living now so not exclusive no more so vm got 1 exclusive channel and some on digital spy forum saying thats sky could be getting film4HD sometime this year
A VM Sports subscriber pays 22.50 , in my eyes they should get all SS channels , OFCOM need to man up
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A VM Sports subscriber pays 22.50 , in my eyes they should get all SS channels , OFCOM need to man up
so true and i know that one of reasons you went to dark side
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A VM Sports subscriber pays 22.50 , in my eyes they should get all SS channels , OFCOM need to man up
By the time Ofcom man up it will be 2020.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

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We will only ever hear biased reports from these talk as there are no impartial parties involved.
but with the evidence of nothing new arriving in months and months, if not years now we can make some assumptions on the evidence.


Viacom add Comedy Central HD (simply a HD version of a channel we already had in SD,) but to facilitate this remove two channels we no longer have access to in any form. This instead of taking extra capacity from what we would assume are a very close and important working partner. Meanwhile extra capacity was sought from Astra for the same channel meaning no removal of other services from the Sky platform.

CSC Media add their flagship "true entertaiment" channel. However to facilitate this have to remove their childrens offering from Virgin Media. Meanwhile when any CSC add channels to the sky epg they seek extra capacity from Astra.

CBS via Chello Media make a high profile attempt to join the UK market. They create two extra channels which quickly gain carriage on Astra, but now, two years since the channels were first announced, are no nearer appearing on Virgin Media.

BSkyB buy Virgin medias channel portfolio, part of the agreement is that Virgin will have long term access to Skys channels, and I rather foolishly thought this would also go for any new channel launches within a set time period also, however a matter of weeks later Sky launch a new flagship channel, which didn't, and hasn't since appeared on the VM Platform.

Premier Sports launch a new channel, which gains capacity on Astra with ease, but despite their insistence of continued efforts, get no nearer an agreement with capacity on the VM Platform.

Box Nation launch and seem confident of carriage from the off on both Astra and VM, even putting both platforms on their website... However, while the Astra capacity is not an issue, it all goes quiet on the VM front and all references to it are removed off the website.

Sony, a multinational corporation launch an english language channel in the UK... they, again, have little problem getting access to Astra and the Sky EPG, however despite their immense influence are unable to agree any carriage deal with VM.

PBS maker announcements of their intention to join the UK market with a new channel, which has already agreed carriage on Astra onto the Sky EPG, and are in discussion with VM. It doesn't take a genius to work out that if some of the worlds biggest media organisations can't agree anything for capacity with VM that PBS have very little chance of making it onto a platform that to all intents and purposes has been closed to newcomers for almost two years now. Even the recent addition of the +1 and HD channels was due to VM selling its stake in UKTV whilst inserting a clause for the carriage of the missing channels, and not an independent deal.

The evidence is just so huge it cannot be ignored, the problem has to lie with VM. And the sooner VM recognise this and try to address the problem, there is no chance of any new content being added to VM anytime soon, as I am sure they have very little else to sell in exchange for anything new.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

or maybe VM simply has a policy right now of not adding any new non HD linear channels.

This topic is about what's coming soon to VM in terms of new Tv channels and whilst rumours are constantly doing the rounds, the only new channels in the last year have been Cinemoi, ITV1 +1 and the forthcoming return of two UKTV timeshift channels which were IIRC removed to make way for newly launched UKTV channels a couple of years ago.
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Of course it is easy to get a EPG slot on Astra, the channels pay for it. To get carried on VM, THEY pay for it. The question they ask is will the revenue from commercials pay the price that the channel is asking or will people pay the subs.

The way I have always seem the situation is that VM are a company that supply broadband and phones services alongside TV. Sky supply TV and dabble in BB and Telephone.

If loads of extra channels are your thing get Sky. If you want a decent TV offering with good broadband get VM.

So can we get back on topic now ????
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.

Not been on for a couple of hours and its sky bashing again,When are people gonna realise they cant blame sky for everything.Yes they are witholding sports 3+4 HD(dont know about sky sports news hd+sky news hd),They have offered vm sky atlantic but they wont pay what they want that is not sky`s fault.As said on previous post Universal HD is available and all the disney HD channels but clearly again vm wont pay what they want,That is not sky`s fault that is a vm problem which they need to sort out.
Lets not forget itv channels and there are more,again not sky`s fault !!!!!!!!!!!!
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