Home Secretary: scrap the Human Rights Act - Page 3

Tezcatlipoca · 02-10-2011, 20:11

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Originally Posted by nashville

To many do- gooders in this country. Send criminals back to their own country.

What if their own country is the UK?

Chrysalis · 03-10-2011, 07:25

funny how easy it is to conveniantly ignore the fact the government want to use the act on unconvicted people. Not a single comment in reference to the bit I highlighted.

Ignitionnet · 03-10-2011, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

funny how easy it is to conveniantly ignore the fact the government want to use the act on unconvicted people. Not a single comment in reference to the bit I highlighted.

Err the HRA is supposed to enshrine the ECHR within UK law, these are the fundamental rights of people against the government. The government doesn't 'use' the HRA on anyone, convicted or otherwise, hence the lack of a reference to them doing so.

Chrysalis · 03-10-2011, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Err the HRA is supposed to enshrine the ECHR within UK law, these are the fundamental rights of people against the government. The government doesn't 'use' the HRA on anyone, convicted or otherwise, hence the lack of a reference to them doing so.

I meant the terrorist act and other acts sorry.

So basically the government are finding the HRA a barrier to doing things against unconvicted people.

Ignitionnet · 03-10-2011, 08:08

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I meant the terrorist act and other acts sorry.

So basically the government are finding the HRA a barrier to doing things against unconvicted people.

Probably, amongst many other motivations to replace this feature creeper.

Hom3r · 03-10-2011, 17:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Thanks for this.

I was referring to the statement above "A guy kills a load of people in cold blood inc. kids.

He is found guilty and set to prison with a whole life tariff.

He then appeals that it's against his HR, for a whole life in prison."

Has this actually happened in the UK?

It wasn't a statement of fact, but what can happen.

**Hugh** · 03-10-2011, 17:44

You stated that "What we need to stop is cases along the lines of his.

A guy kills a load of people in cold blood inc. kids.""

Stopping cases like that usually implies they have happened - if it hasn't happened, we don't need to stop it, do we?

Stuart · 03-10-2011, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Probably, amongst many other motivations to replace this feature creeper.

And yet people are calling it to be repealed. Well done people, you are calling for your own rights to be reduced.