Superhub R30 - Superhub R29 is no more.... - Page 23

qasdfdsaq · 22-09-2011, 16:47

Opinion.

Either Netgear or VM decided to change it, and given how many VM staff on here have said the Superhub is set up the way it is because VM told Netgear that's how they wanted it, my assumption is the latter.

If Netgear decided to do it of their own accord and without VM's input, well that goes against pretty much everything else they do and also pretty much everything VM staff here and on their own forums have said about the products development. Balance of probabilities really.

Sirius · 22-09-2011, 17:44

To be honest all these opinions that everyone has been spouting are worthless in my eyes, I prefer to deal with facts, I could say in my opinion the super hub is able to time travel and because its an opinion i don't have to back it up with evidence and it will be accepted by those on the one side and ignored by the other side

This thread is getting boring now, The same people on both sides spouting there opinions and in the end if you guys hate it so much then why not just use modem mode or move to a provider who is as perfect as you or does that mean you cannot moan anymore.

My feelings are that VM should provide a stand alone modem at extra cost for those who want one.

qasdfdsaq · 22-09-2011, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Sirius

My feelings are that VM should provide a stand alone modem at extra cost for those who want one.

Sorry, everyone's opinion is worthless*

* Except the ones I agree with, since I have been saying the same thing for nearly a year

And I already have 3 good providers, no need to move.

Sirius · 22-09-2011, 19:11

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Sorry, everyone's opinion is worthless*

* Except the ones I agree with, since I have been saying the same thing for nearly a year

And I already have 3 good providers, no need to move.

Try reading it all, It gets tedious and boring

If i tried to say by shub is working fine and does what I need it to do you can guarantee i will be surrounded by the no there crap gang telling me i am wrong and the shub is crap. That's what is so boring about all this

Anyway i am out of this thread before i die of boredom

thenry · 22-09-2011, 19:41

Hold on. Netgear are building the firmware right? And VM have said their going to look to improve the SH and its features so I ask again.. why are they taking a break? Why don't they have Netgear start building the new firmware by means it can be tested in the lab etc. etc. this new firmware, R30 is enough to see the SH through to the next upgrade so why not start now? Don't they need to somewhat recoupe their fallen rep?

BenMcr · 22-09-2011, 22:14

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Originally Posted by thenry

why are they taking a break?

Where has it been said they are taking a break?

thenry · 22-09-2011, 22:19

on the community forum, staff member said it a while back regarding further improvements.

kwikbreaks · 23-09-2011, 00:05

Considering it has taken a year to ignore one setting (flood protection), add a gui option to a feature already present (modem mode), and fix a memory leak bug the chances are there will be different CPE released before the Superhub is upgraded to the feature set offered by a Â£20 router. The only up market feature is the gigabit switch.

My opinion. You won't see any significant improvements to the Superhub any time soon and probably never. You want better before you start drawing a pension - buy a proper router and use modem mode.

Sephiroth · 23-09-2011, 01:01

Well, Kwikkie's spot on there. One of the reasons it is such a wretched device is that it is so sluhhed in the features department. R30 was grudgingly (because it took so long to be acknowledged by VM) added so that people could avoid the SH's lameness and lack of features.

When certain people come in and insist it's not a wretched device, you've got to wonder what's up with them.

Chrysalis · 23-09-2011, 04:47

Interesting it seems VM techs are giving out dlink 615's again alongside the superhub in modem mode, seen a couple of posts on the VM forums on it.

Sirius · 23-09-2011, 08:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

When certain people come in and insist it's not a wretched device, you've got to wonder what's up with them.

Proberly aimed at me because i said it does what i want it to do so for that reason i will bite, I never said its not and i have never said it is a wretched device as you put it. Each person should be allowed to make up there own mind based on there usage not based on a group of users personal opinions, but to return the attack i would say you have to wonder why some complain relentlessly about the shub in this thread when they don't even use a shub anymore.

Sephiroth · 23-09-2011, 09:52

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Proberly aimed at me because i said it does what i want it to do so for that reason i will bite, I never said its not and i have never said it is a wretched device as you put it. Each person should be allowed to make up there own mind based on there usage not based on a group of users personal opinions, but to return the attack i would say you have to wonder why some complain relentlessly about the shub in this thread when they don't even use a shub anymore.

No Sirius, it wasn't aimed at you and my remark still doesn't point in any way at you.

To answer a point you make about relentless complaint about the SH - it is both possible and reasonable to stand back, look at the SH saga that has been going on for nearly a year and justifiably describe that slugged thing as a wretched device. The facts about that device (not the anecdote) speak for themselves and if the remark "wretched device" is wrong (which it isn't, opinion), then VM themselves have been wretched in at least the time taken to resolve matters without providing a vanilla or paid for alternative.

kwikbreaks · 23-09-2011, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sirius

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you have to wonder why some complain relentlessly about the shub in this thread when they don't even use a shub anymore.

As it seems OK to bite on little evidence that any post was a personal barb I'll respond to this one..

I rather liked the idea of a single device so that I didn't have to yank cables left right and centre for TS should I ever have a fault. Although I have a loft full of old ADSL modem routers I only had the Netgear cable modem VM supplied which with a 100Mbps switch meant I couldn't attach anything to it other than a gigabit switch, just as I did with the ADSL routers in fact, so the Superhub with it's dual band radio and gigabit switch sounded good. So good I waited till they were free with a 50Mbps upgrade and took that option. I was disappointed with the distinctly poor feature set and regular need to reboot the thing so I had to splash out on my own gigabit router as I had reorganised my kit and needed those extra gigabit ports.

Sirius · 23-09-2011, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Interesting it seems VM techs are giving out dlink 615's again alongside the superhub in modem mode, seen a couple of posts on the VM forums on it.

Got a link to that info

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

As it seems OK to bite on little evidence that any post was a personal barb I'll respond to this one..

I rather liked the idea of a single device so that I didn't have to yank cables left right and centre for TS should I ever have a fault. Although I have a loft full of old ADSL modem routers I only had the Netgear cable modem VM supplied which with a 100Mbps switch meant I couldn't attach anything to it other than a gigabit switch, just as I did with the ADSL routers in fact, so the Superhub with it's dual band radio and gigabit switch sounded good. So good I waited till they were free with a 50Mbps upgrade and took that option. I was disappointed with the distinctly poor feature set and regular need to reboot the thing so I had to splash out on my own gigabit router as I had reorganised my kit and needed those extra gigabit ports.

My comment was aimed at those who have now got a stand alone modem but are still complaining about how crap the shub is even after they admit they dont use it anymore

qasdfdsaq · 23-09-2011, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Interesting it seems VM techs are giving out dlink 615's again alongside the superhub in modem mode, seen a couple of posts on the VM forums on it.

Hard to argue with that. The DIR-615 has been one of the best value consumer 'n' routers available for some time.