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			20-09-2011, 23:21
			
			
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			Got R30 eventually, Superhub still useless for music streaming with Aiport Express. Think I'm gonna put it into modem mode and use the Airport as a router.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-09-2011, 08:49
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  KenK
					 
				 
				So are you using the "super"hub in modem mode, or not? If you are, it doesn't have a wireless signal, and I don't understand how it could affect your dir655. 
			
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 Sorry perhaps a little misleading , yes its in modem mode , and i know wireless is obviously off on the superhub , just saying that the wireless signal on my router compared to the superhub is much stronger   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-09-2011, 10:09
			
			
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			FACT:  Thecurrent VM blurb claims "unbeatable wireless" for the SH. 
 
FACT:  At least one user (prolly many more but I don't have the stats) reports that his router's wireless is stronger than the SH's wireless. 
 
OPINION:  VM needs to justify its claims. 
 
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			21-09-2011, 16:32
			
			
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			i agree with the above from seph. The marketing department need to communicate with the tech/networks departments. They advertise somewhat wrongly as seph has mentioned, the claims that the superhub is a premium modem/router, when its performance compares to a sub £20 router 
 
As well as this, the "perfect for gaming" adverts are somewhat misleading, claiming that VM are perfect for gaming, and getting 50mbit will solve all lag etc. making users think they need 50mbit to play games. The timing of the games ads were somewhat off as well considering they were advertising the "perfect for gaming" when there were ongoing problems with xbox live, call of duty and WoW being misclassified by the traffic management system. 
 
Anyway, the top and bottom is that VM are supplying cheap hardware and advertising it as a premium service
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-09-2011, 19:18
			
			
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				FACT: The current VM blurb claims "unbeatable wireless" for the SH. 
  
FACT: At least one user (prolly many more but I don't have the stats) reports that his router's wireless is stronger than the SH's wireless. 
  
OPINION: VM needs to justify its claims. 
  
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 Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-09-2011, 22:17
			
			
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			A few more fun facts: 
 
FACT: The Superhub's wireless isn't even Wifi certified 
FACT: The Superhub's wireless cannot pass Wifi certification in it's current state as VM have have it set to violate Wifi alliance standards 
 
Opinion: VM didn't even bother trying to get the Superhub wifi certified 
 
Conspiracy theory: Because they knew the wireless is so bad they'd never even have a chance, they took the opposite route to make it behave as badly and selfishly as possible purely for their own benefit (e.g. to push up their speedtest results while also negatively impacting those of other isps)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-09-2011, 22:22
			
			
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			Opinion:  What a wretched device where wifi is concerned.  (or is that FACT?)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-09-2011, 22:58
			
			
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			It may be a fact for some people, but not for others.......  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-09-2011, 23:12
			
			
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			thanks for sharing your latency cat with us   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Not my cat, just how the Superhub makes me feel.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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					Originally Posted by  Sephiroth
					 
				 
				FACT:  Thecurrent VM blurb claims "unbeatable wireless" for the SH. 
 
FACT:  At least one user (prolly many more but I don't have the stats) reports that his router's wireless is stronger than the SH's wireless. 
 
OPINION:  VM needs to justify its claims. 
 
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. 
			
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			22-09-2011, 11:47
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  qasdfdsaq
					 
				 
				A few more fun facts: 
  
FACT: The Superhub's wireless isn't even Wifi certified 
FACT: The Superhub's wireless cannot pass Wifi certification in it's current state as VM have have it set to violate Wifi alliance standards 
  
Opinion: VM didn't even bother trying to get the Superhub wifi certified 
  
Conspiracy theory: Because they knew the wireless is so bad they'd never even have a chance, they took the opposite route to make it behave as badly and selfishly as possible purely for their own benefit (e.g. to push up their speedtest results while also negatively impacting those of other isps) 
			
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 So this WiFi certificate is fake then?  http://certifications.wi-fi.org/pdf_...hp?cid=WFA9077
 
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				[Certificate Date: May 09, 2010] 
Company: NETGEAR, Inc. 
Product: DOCSIS 3.0 Wireless Cable Gateway 
Model/SKU #: CG3101D, VMDG400, VMDG480 
Category: Cable, DSL or Other Broadband Gateway (Integrated Home Access Device)
			
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