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13-08-2011, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Tinky

Thank you Kymmy for that, it could certainly come in handy, I've downloaded to my memory stick just in case.

Yes - but also run it and save the txt file it generates with the info in to the stick as well!

The cable is firmly connected isn't it??

Tinky · 13-08-2011, 09:59

Cheers for that Lee, the link Kymmy gave is for the .exe file. I have just downloaded it to my main computer just to check, but it seems a pretty simple app. Don't think I'm going to concern myself about the txt file just yet, and yes the cable is well and trully plugged in.

Kymmy · 13-08-2011, 10:59

I think what Lee is suggesting is run it now and print out the file so that the keys are safe. Just that with you messing about with the system trying to get things working there's always a chance that something will go wrong and the system will become unbootable. In that case you wouldn't be able to run the keyfinder program later

Tinky · 13-08-2011, 17:46

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

I think what Lee is suggesting is run it now and print out the file so that the keys are safe. Just that with you messing about with the system trying to get things working there's always a chance that something will go wrong and the system will become unbootable. In that case you wouldn't be able to run the keyfinder program later

Get yah, will co Kymmy

13-08-2011, 19:41

Yes - exactly - grab it now whist the system is running!

Tinky · 14-08-2011, 08:05

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Originally Posted by LSainsbury

Yes - exactly - grab it now whist the system is running!

Grabbed!

qasdfdsaq · 14-08-2011, 10:06

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

I think what Lee is suggesting is run it now and print out the file so that the keys are safe. Just that with you messing about with the system trying to get things working there's always a chance that something will go wrong and the system will become unbootable. In that case you wouldn't be able to run the keyfinder program later

Actually you can, I've had to do it several times for people, though it does become monumentally more difficult.

I still think interrupt moderation might be the problem here.

Kymmy · 14-08-2011, 10:09

Yeah but grabbing the hive from another drive I don't think was an option in this case so only tend to give out info useful to the OP

Tinky · 14-08-2011, 10:22

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Actually you can, I've had to do it several times for people, though it does become monumentally more difficult.

I still think interrupt moderation might be the problem here.

Eh? What is interrupt moderation mean please?

Kymmy · 14-08-2011, 10:28

Some people believe that giving all the information is always the best way to go, yet 90% of that information might not be understood by over half of the people involved.

I was always taught the KISS method.. (Keep it simple Stupid) which basically means that if it's not relevant to the problem then it'll just confuse the issue.

I said that the hive method isn't an option in this case for two reasons

1# The drive is up and running so Jellybean could be used directly on the system
2# Explaining that you could point jellybean towards the hive file either after a rebuild or by removing the drive and putting it into another working system would have confused the issue.

TInky, which would you rather have.. The pure techie talk or the KISS method

Dai · 14-08-2011, 10:32

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I still think interrupt moderation might be the problem here.

As in 'optimise for CPU'?

I think it's unlikely that Tinky would have been messing with settings at that level.

qasdfdsaq · 14-08-2011, 10:48

Something like that. This whole thing sounds exactly like interrupt storm or IRQ conflict. He wouldn't have to be messing with the settings to cause it, a change in network devices or traffic patterns might be enough to push it over the edge. Or the OS automatically reassigning IRQs.

Of course there's still the option the NIC is faulty, but he's unwilling to test that theory, so we're kinda stuck.

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Originally Posted by Tinky

Eh? What is interrupt moderation mean please?

Every time a piece of hardware (e.g. your network card) has information it needs the computer to process it sends an interrupt to the CPU, which "interrupts" the CPU from whatever it's doing to handle the data. Too many interrupts would stop the processor being free to do other stuff, resulting in your mouse being jerky or freezing, because it's constantly being interrupted by the network card.

Interrupt moderation is a setting that bundles up lots of interrupts into one, so instead of 100 individual interrupts, all 100 bits of data are combined into one interrupt.

Tinky · 14-08-2011, 10:50

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Originally Posted by DaiNasty

As in 'optimise for CPU'?

I think it's unlikely that Tinky would have been messing with settings at that level.

Messing with the settings? Optimise the CPU?

This is getting far beyond me.

I'm pinning all my hopes on the adaptor, awaiting delivery next week.

Oh and Kymmy I prefer the KISS method.

Kymmy · 14-08-2011, 10:55

Hence the KISS puppy linux

Dai · 14-08-2011, 12:45

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Something like that. This whole thing sounds exactly like interrupt storm or IRQ conflict.

The mouse thing makes it sound possible but I'm going with defective NIC for now.

And he's a she by the way..