Riots

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Russ

If you carry a gun then you have to accept the consequences of any action the police take. No grey area about it.

[wwe]

is the spurs vs everton the only game that been called off? due to the riots

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by wwe

is the spurs vs everton the only game that been called off? due to the riots

Yes it is:

Premier League statement
The remaining nine Barclays Premier League fixtures are expected to go ahead as planned.


Following on-going discussions with the Metropolitan Police, statutory authorities and clubs in London, The Premier League can confirm that, aside from the postponed Tottenham Hotspur v Everton match, all League games in the capital will go ahead as scheduled this weekend.

The Premier League has worked closely with the authorities and London-based clubs throughout the recent civil unrest to ensure matches are staged in accordance with supporter safety.
CURRENT INFORMATION
While all efforts were made to try and facilitate the Tottenham Hotspur v Everton match by the Metropolitan Police and the local authority, the situation on the Tottenham High Road proved too difficult to overcome.

The Premier League would like to thank the Metropolitan Police and all the other relevant police forces for their efforts and on-going communication during this difficult time.

Acting on current information from the authorities there is no reason to believe that matches outside of London

http://www.premierleague.com/page/He...417110,00.html

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by wwe

is the spurs vs everton the only game that been called off? due to the riots

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/

[colin25]

Cheltenham's League Two match against Swindon has also been postponed.

I thought spurs was only premier league game..but cheltenham's is off too

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by colin25

Cheltenham's League Two match against Swindon has also been postponed.

I thought spurs was only premier league game..but cheltenham's is off too

Since when were Cheltenham in the premier league

[Stuart]

I know it's not on the same level, but part of my job at the Uni is maintaining discipline in the labs. Occasionally, we've had groups of students causing trouble (usually getting lippy with a lecturer rather than violent, although we've had the odd threat of violence to deal with).

What I have found in the past is that if we can identify the ring leaders and remove them from the equation, the rest of the group dissipates.

I suspect it's a similar thing for the Police here, and I hope that if it is, the police have caught at least some of the ring leaders.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Since when were Cheltenham in the premier league

lol..bad english..I meant, spurs is the only premier league game off, but there is one other in the lower leagues

Where is cheltenham?

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by colin25

lol..bad english..I meant, spurs is the only premier league game off, but there is one other in the lower leagues

Where is cheltenham?

LMFAO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14487345

More people have been arrested in Wales on suspicion of using social networking sites to incite criminal behaviour after the riots in England.
The latest arrests follow others in Cardiff, Newport, Ebbw Vale and Bangor.
Gwent Police arrested a 25-year-old Chepstow man on suspicion of encouraging or assisting the commission of a public order offence.
Dyfed-Powys Police also made two arrests - a 15-year-old boy in Powys, and a 21-year-old Pembroke Dock woman.
The teenager was arrested on suspicion of committing incitement to violent disorder after posting on Facebook.
The 21-year-old woman was arrested on suspicion of encouraging public disorder by mobile phone messaging.
The suspects were later bailed.

So I think some care about what one posts on FB or Twitter is in order.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mick

It seemed a good idea at first but would probably cause a backlash, that's why I haven't signed it.

Its hit it

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/search?q=

The e-petition entitled “Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits” has now passed the threshold of 100,000 signatures and has been passed to the Backbench Business Committee to consider for debate. It will continue to be available for signature once the site is re-opened

[Gary L]

I'm confused now. didn't I read that it needed a million signatures originally. and where's everyone getting this million figure they're talking about?

and it won't get passed anyway. unless the people who signed it want more riots and riots for a proper reason.

[Tezcatlipoca]

"England riots: 24-hour criminal justice system after riots"

Originally Posted by BBC News

Several courts in England will stay open 24 hours a day to fast-track those already in custody for looting and disorder-related offences.

Magistrates in London, Manchester and Solihull were processing some of those arrested over riot-related incidents.

An 11-year-old girl and a primary school worker have already appeared in court. One man has been jailed for eight months for stealing clothes.

David Cameron said courts would continue to sit through the night.

The total number of people arrested over the riots stands at more than 1,300.

(snip)

"Riots: Tough justice in London's courts"

Originally Posted by BBC News

Westminster Magistrates' Court has been working round the clock to help deal with the 922 arrested and 401 charged over the London riots. Here's a snapshot of proceedings.

Saffron Armstrong tried to explain that he had gone into a looted computer store because he was inquisitive - and a freelance journalist.

This drew sniggers from the press bench, but not from district judge Elizabeth Roscoe, who told him he faced a prison sentence.

The 22-year-old pleaded guilty to burglary after being arrested in a PC World store in Colliers Wood, south London, the day after it was hit by looters.

The accounting student from Mitcham, who also worked for Marks and Spencer, was remorseful and admitted his intentions had "not been for the best".

It was a pattern which was repeated throughout the morning as defendants including students, an estate agent and an aspiring ballerina were brought up from the cells.

(snip)

On Tuesday, Prime Minister David Cameron said anyone convicted of violent disorder would go to prison.

And in a brisk, efficient manner, the district judge in court five seemed to be ensuring that this happened.

In each case, she would listen carefully as the defendants' solicitors made arguments for community sentences or for them to be granted bail.

Then she would say the circumstances rendered their offences too serious, before referring their cases to the crown court, and its tougher sentencing powers.

The case of Charlie Heron, 18, epitomised the approach.

The unemployed cannabis user from Roehampton admitted buying £248 of sports clothes from a "crack head" for £50 - items which had been looted from JD Sports in Clapham Junction the previous night.

The offence, which would ordinarily result in a fine or conditional discharge, saw him remanded in custody and sent to crown court for a probable prison sentence.

"At this time, anyone who buys stolen goods of this nature, from well-publicised rioting and stealing from shops is very much in the same position as the person who stole the goods," Judge Roscoe told him.
'Looking for a thrill'

Almost 100 people appeared at Westminster overnight, with prosecutors working 17:00 to 09:00 shifts.

About 30 more people charged with offences linked to the rioting were to appear before the court before the end of Thursday.

Despite appearing stressful for the lawyers, who were often without their complete paperwork, proceedings appeared to be passing smoothly.

Between riot cases there was time for some which are dealt with on a more typical day in a magistrates' court - a man losing his licence for drink driving, and a woman denying pulling a barmaid's hair.

The court was packed with press, including a contingent from abroad - between cases British journalists were busy explaining the vagaries of the justice system to their French counterparts.

Last up before lunch was James Haung, 19, arrested on Tuesday night in Camberwell wearing a balaclava and gardening gloves.

He denied a charge of going equipped to steal, having told police he was "just looking for a thrill".

He too, was remanded in custody, to appear at crown court at a later date.

Of the eight cases heard during the morning - others involved charges of affray following a scuffle with police in Lambeth and someone found carrying a knife in Hackney - none were released on bail, and all were sent to the crown court for sentencing.

(snip)

Despite the numbers, they are generally being dealt with more harshly than some might expect. "Given the circumstances..." is apparently being said quite a lot by Judges...

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The Twitter feed for Greater Manchester Police is naming and shaming those who have been convicted:

https://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

Originally Posted by GMPolice

Stefan Hoyle (born 27/01/1992) of St. Stephen Street, Salford, jailed for four months for theft after found with a stolen violin.

Jordan Kelly (born 09/01/1991) of Kerswell Walk, Newton Heath, was jailed for six months for going equipped

Paul Obonyano (born 26/09/1968), Cowesby Street, Moss Side, jailed for 14 weeks for assaulting a police officer and a public order offence.

Eoin Flanagan (born 01/01/1983), of Carson Road, Burnage, jailed for eight months for stealing clothes

etc. etc.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I'm confused now. didn't I read that it needed a million signatures originally. and where's everyone getting this million figure they're talking about?

and it won't get passed anyway. unless the people who signed it want more riots and riots for a proper reason.

what "proper reason"would you be thinking about Gary ,do tell

---------- Post added at 19:59 ---------- Previous post was at 19:57 ----------

Originally Posted by Matt D

"England riots: 24-hour criminal justice system after riots"




"Riots: Tough justice in London's courts"




Despite the numbers, they are generally being dealt with more harshly than some might expect. "Given the circumstances..." is apparently being said quite a lot by Judges...

---------- Post added at 19:56 ---------- Previous post was at 19:55 ----------

The Twitter feed for Greater Manchester Police is naming and shaming those who have been convicted:

https://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice



etc. etc.

What's the betting quite a few get let off because of incomplete or incorrect paperwork

[colin25]

I like that the penny has finally dropped for the courts...if only they could do this more often

Alas, eventually prisons will be full..and someone will suggest letting offenders out, as human rights are being affected.