Riots - Page 52

Sirius · 10-08-2011, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

Just heard a senior policeman on LBC stating that watercannon are only effective against fixed mobs, not running battles....

Still, should be interesting to see how it works.

I have watched water cannon hitting a crowd, i have to admit it looks great and cheers you up when you have just been given grief for over an hour by the **** who are now getting a wash in freezing cold water.

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I have watched water cannon hitting a crowd and have to admit it looks great and cheers you up when you have just been given grief for over an hour by the **** who are now getting a wash in freezing cold water.

They should put ice-cubes in the water cannon and then fire it as there would be no evidence? So there would be no need for plastic bullets?

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Well they can always use it to put fires out. just hope they remember to fill it up with water first.

the whole world will be in stitches otherwise

That's a good point, if violence flares up like this again with so many fires - it's inevitable that will run out, sods law dicates that'll likely occur at the most inopportune moment, right when it's needed.

Osem · 10-08-2011, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

Just heard a senior policeman on LBC stating that watercannon are only effective against fixed mobs, not running battles....

Still, should be interesting to see how it works.

Big fires start out as little ones so if watercannon are in situ at least there's a chance that they can snuff out some of the minor ones before they gather magnitude.

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Osem

Big fires start out as little ones so if watercannon are in situ at least there's a chance that they can snuff out some of the minor ones before they gather magnitude.

They should have had watercannon in every city for exactly that purpose, even if not allowed to use it on people. Just think how much property could've been saved with a little forward thinking.
Politicians, forward thinking? Pah.

Osem · 10-08-2011, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

They should have had watercannon in every city for exactly that purpose, even if not allowed to use it on people. Just think how much property could've been saved with a little forward thinking.
Politicians, forward thinking? Pah.

True. Short term budgets don't encourage long term thinking.

denphone · 10-08-2011, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Osem

True. Short term budgets don't encourage long term thinking.

And l agree with that and it would be good if we could take the political short term aspect out of it and plan for things long term.

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 15:49

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

They should put ice-cubes in the water cannon and then fire it as there would be no evidence? So there would be no need for plastic bullets?

Or, capsicum oleoresin (cheaper) or capsaicin - essence of red peppers.
Entirely non-lethal, and the main ingredient in pepper spray.
I have a bottle of capsicum oleoresin in my cupboard (circa 5 million scoville heat units). Its the essential oil of peppers (steam distilled oil from dried chillis). A few spoonfulls of that in a spray bottle = instant pepper spray.

A litre bottle per water cannon tank ought to do the trick.

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

Or, capsicum oleoresin (cheaper) or capsaicin - essence of red peppers.
Entirely non-lethal, and the main ingredient in pepper spray.
I have a bottle of capsicum oleoresin in my cupboard (circa 5 million scoville heat units). Its the essential oil of peppers (steam distilled oil from dried chillis). A few spoonfulls of that in a spray bottle = instant pepper spray.

A litre bottle per water cannon tank ought to do the trick.

A good idea, but I think that the ice-cubes would hurt and do more damage?

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 16:05

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

A good idea, but I think that the ice-cubes would hurt and do more damage?

Possibly, but between the ice-cubes jamming up the pump and the bleeding heart liberals, organically grownâ„¢ pepper extracted, biodegradable oleoresin might be a good bet too.

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Also, a blind mob running into lamp poles and other obstacles would do some extra damage too.
The footage would be priceless.

thenry · 10-08-2011, 16:10

Be careful, those below will come after you like the A-Team

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

Possibly, but between the ice-cubes jamming up the pump and the bleeding heart liberals, organically grownâ„¢ pepper extracted, biodegradable oleoresin might be a good bet too.

---------- Post added at 17:05 ---------- Previous post was at 17:03 ----------

Also, a blind mob running into lamp poles and other obstacles would do some extra damage too.
The footage would be priceless.

Yes all very true and well said or you could just add caustic soda to it. The second part to it would be well welcome (you've been framed moments)

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 16:13

Yes, caustic soda would do the trick too - but it'll cause permanent blindness, same with acid. The effects from pepper spray subside after 20 min or so, so noone gets permanently harmed.

Pierre · 10-08-2011, 16:14

http://m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23334652

Teacher charged with looting.........

What else can you say?

denphone · 10-08-2011, 16:15

Greater Manchester Police has arrested a man on suspicion of arson after a branch of Miss Selfridge was set alight yesterday

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...-day-four-live