Riots

Originally Posted by colin25

Can that be done? Is their identity on twitter and facebook purely UK driven?

Or would you need to stop individual accounts that are UK based?

I have no idea ,but i hear other countries China ,Lybia or similar stopping access to these type of social network sites so just thought would it be posible to stop access to the sites accross the UK on a temporary basis should the riots continue

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

If you do that then how do those who are helping the clean ups get organised?

the old fashioned way ,talk to people in real life

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

If you do that then how do those who are helping the clean ups get organised?

Carrier pigeon...go old school

The rioters would be confused if you told them that everyone was using their birds to talk..they probably think it meant they were to send their gfs out

[danielf]

Originally Posted by martyh

I have no idea ,but i hear other countries China ,Lybia or similar stopping access to these type of social network sites so just thought would it be posible to stop access to the sites accross the UK on a temporary basis should the riots continue

I would imagine it's technically possible. Whether it's legally possible (or even desirable) without declaring Martial Law is another thing.

[denphone]

Rioters have set fire to a Miss Selfridge shop on Market Street in Manchester city centre.

Hundreds of youths ran down the street smashing the windows on another clothes store, while dozens tried to force the door of the Arndale shopping centre.

Hundreds of riot police had tried to move crowds who had gathered on Piccadilly Gardens, leading to running battles with youngsters wearing masks and hoods


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...four-live-blog

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516

There is no evidence Mark Duggan opened fire at police before being shot dead by a firearms officer, the Independent Police Complaints Commission has said.
Mr Duggan, 29, whose death sparked the first riots in Tottenham, died from a single bullet wound, an inquest heard.
The police watchdog said ballistic tests showed "no evidence that the handgun found at the scene was fired".
BBC News understands firearms officers discharged their weapons in the belief there was a threat to human life.
Their guidelines allow them to open fire in such circumstances.

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Originally Posted by martyh

I have no idea ,but i hear other countries China ,Lybia or similar stopping access to these type of social network sites so just thought would it be posible to stop access to the sites accross the UK on a temporary basis should the riots continue

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the old fashioned way ,talk to people in real life

Oh like using their mobiles.

My point is that the social networks aren't to blame and that they actually can do some good in this case

[wwe]

[MOD EDIT - Do not post rumours or gossip regarding riot locations]

[Jimmy-J]

Twazzup is pretty good for info.

Manchester

Salford

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516

I don't remember the police actually ever stating that Duggan fired i think it was a natural assumption as we tend to forget that the police don't need to be fired on to shoot someone .Of course the family are sying that it is a disgrace that he was shot ,do they think it was a disgrace that he carried a loaded gun ?

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516



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Oh like using their mobiles.

My point is that the social networks aren't to blame and that they actually can do some good in this case

That link appears to be contradicting itself.

First it states

The police watchdog said ballistic tests showed "no evidence that the handgun found at the scene was fired".

and then, further down, it states

Forensic officers have told the IPCC it may not be possible to "say for certain" whether the handgun found near Mr Duggan was fired.

Further tests on the weapon, which had been converted from a blank-firing pistol to one that shoots live rounds, are being carried out to establish this.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516



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Oh like using their mobiles.

My point is that the social networks aren't to blame and that they actually can do some good in this case

didn't say they where to blame Maggie ,i implied that they are being used to organise gangs of rioters and wondered if the police ,if the situation gets worse ,could have them shut down on a temporary basis ,if that means inconveniencing a few people then tough there is a bigger issue than "i am doing my ironing".Any way as pointed out it would most likely be illegal because of the wishy washy society we have built for ourselves

Originally Posted by martyh

I don't remember the police actually ever stating that Duggan fired i think it was a natural assumption as we tend to forget that the police don't need to be fired on to shoot someone .Of course the family are sying that it is a disgrace that he was shot ,do they think it was a disgrace that he carried a loaded gun ?

I don't know about what they are saying but I think a degree of myopia is understandable on their part.

Originally Posted by Hugh

That link appears to be contradicting itself.

First it states and then, further down, it states

Well Hugh that's problem when everyone demands answers instantly instead of waiting until all the facts can be released.You can only get half of them because forensic tests always take time unlike the US cop shows would have us believe.

Originally Posted by martyh

didn't say they where to blame Maggie ,i implied that they are being used to organise gangs of rioters and wondered if the police ,if the situation gets worse ,could have them shut down on a temporary basis ,if that means inconveniencing a few people then tough there is a bigger issue than "i am doing my ironing".Any way as pointed out it would most likely be illegal because of the wishy washy society we have built for ourselves

It's a very dodgy road to go down. Twitter and Facebook are communication tools and giving the government the power to shut them down is dangerous in the extreme. We harm our own freedom and liberties while the thugs will find some other way to plan their chaos.

[Gary L]

Well here we go then. it's almost dark outside.

let's see what the police are going to do tonight.

and please don't run when the kids charge you

[AdamD]

1938: Emma Colbeck from North East England
tweets: Yesterday I was ashamed to be British. Now I watch communities rally together and #riotcleanup and it restores my faith.

True that.