Riots

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Pierre

12 years of Labour, fawning to the UK underclass, making them all believe it is their right to have something for nothing, comes back to bite the nation in the ass

Can't some people stop getting political as the most important thing here is to sort out these idiots.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Damien

People in Clapham arriving to clean up the mess

If I was a copper I'd do them all for offensive weapons

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Masque

It would help if you actually watched or read the news.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23332124/

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Is the Mirror forgetting Northern Ireland is a part of Britian

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Is the Mirror forgetting Northern Ireland is a part of Britian

It should say mainland but I also like the bit where the Mirror has quoted the Guardian which is just as bad.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Sirius

When you do you will understand humour

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All mp's to be recalled from holiday. Denphone has his wish

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No it does not.

l find no satisfaction of mentioning it earlier at all as these things can develop so quickly and the main thing is to sort out these idiots.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Damien

People in Clapham arriving to clean up the mess:



Two people making tea for the police on riot patrol:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixel-eight/6024429000/

Now that brought a smile to my face. I love that pic with the brooms. More of that please

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

It's not civil liberties that is allowing them to riot, it's the numbers making it difficult to get a hold on them. They are still breaking the law. We shouldn't use incidents like this to restrict our freedoms. I really doubt they are feeling uneasy about civil liberties considering all of us take advantage of them on a daily basis.
Such a cheap shot. Just because you believe in civil liberties or your 'left leaning' doesn't mean you approve of riots or 'allowed it to happen'

Have I argued for NO civil liberties? Have I said it's black and white? All or nothing? Did I say these people condoned rioting? That's rather a pathetic response and a very cheap shot of your own if I may say so. What these people have allowed to happen is not the riots, but the gradual taking away of the police's ability to act to defend the majority and the erosion of the respect with which they should be regarded. It's that which has allowed the riots to happen and I trust that's clear enough for you now. It seems you 'misunderstood' an earlier post of mine and I don't normally have that much trouble being clear so you'd probably be doing yourself a favour if you tried reading my last post again and, instead of putting words in my mouth, asking me to clairfy what you don't understand.

In my experience the vast majority of people arguing the Chakrabti line are left inclined. Just to be clear, that's not the same as saying they all are or that people of different political views can't be likewise. Neither is it the same as saying that all civil liberties aren't important or valuable. In an ideal world we should/would all have perfect civil liberties but when our freedoms start to be abused on a mass and organised scale like this I'm afraid the real world has to take over and certain civil liberties have to be suspended. Nobody likes that but the writing's been on the wall and the sight of our our burning towns and emasculated police being abused/attacked/provoked to their faces are the best possible evidence that things have gone too far.

What's Ms Chakrabati's answer to this do you think? What does she suggest the police do? She's normally so vocal when the police have supposedly done wrong......

[Zee]

Look at these 2 stupid girls bragging about it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

i'd love to slap them silly

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Zee

Look at these 2 stupid girls bragging about it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

i'd love to slap them silly

It Just shows the shocking don't care no respect attitude of some of these people.

Right now the usual vocal civil liberties campaigners will be quiet keep out of sight until the police do go in heavy handed and then you watch them come out of the woodwork and spout the usual platitudes. These people are not representing the common man\woman they are not protesting against government cuts or doing this in support of the disabled and to say that is giving them an whiff of legitimacy they do not deserve and should not receive.

They are destroying their own communites for five minutes of what no doubt with many of them passes for fun the fact that this will scare off business and therefore cut the number of jobs in the short to medium term will not enter their heads because most of them are not mature enough to even think of that. We have to swing back in someways to older days where there was respect for others and their property and a return to the days when people were able to defend themselves and their property aghainst allcomer's.

We need to get back to a time where police were able to deal with the very worst in our society without them being scared ineffective of losing their job or someone getting a shot of them on a mobile with which they and they alone are judged and their scalp hunted by the usual suspects. We have gone too far down the tolerence road and accomadation road and this is where it leads and to much worse if we continue.

**** are **** you can be nice to them, you can accomadate them and you can give them things to keep them happy for a bit but what they are will always show itself at the slightest excuse and thats what we're seeing here.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mick

Just on the news that Police may be issued Plastic bullets for tonight ...

That is the best news i have heard all day

[Zee]

Originally Posted by Sirius

That is the best news i have heard all day

yeah, just read now

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23332124/

[denphone]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Right now the usual vocal civil liberties campaigners will be quiet keep out of sight until the police do go in heavy handed and then you watch them come out of the woodwork and spout the usual platitudes. These people are not representing the common man\woman they are not protesting against government cuts or doing this in support of the disabled and to say that is giving them an whiff of legitimacy they do not deserve and should not receive.

They are destroying their own communites for five minutes of what no doubt with many of them passes for fun the fact that this will scare off business and therefore cut the number of jobs in the short to medium term will not enter their heads because most of them are not mature enough to even think of that. We have to swing back in someways to older days where there was respect for others and their property and a return to the days when people were able to defend themselves and their property aghainst allcomer's.

We need to get back to a time where police were able to deal with the very worst in our society without them being scared ineffective of losing their job or someone getting a shot of them on a mobile with which they and they alone are judged and their scalp hunted by the usual suspects. We have gone too far down the tolerence road and accomadation road and this is where it leads and to much worse if we continue.

**** are **** you can be nice to them, you can accomadate them and you can give them things to keep them happy for a bit but what they are will always show itself at the slightest excuse and thats what we're seeing here.

l totally agree with your post.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by denphone

Can't some people stop getting political as the most important thing here is to sort out these idiots.

, does that included you thinly veiled attacks on the present Government in which you quickly say " not that i am involving politics" " or dont involve politics"

Originally Posted by Sirius

, does that included you thinly veiled attacks on the present Government in which you quickly say " not that i am involving politics" " or dont involve politics"

That's an extremely unfair thing to say!




(they are not that thinly veiled....)