Norway: Terror attacks

[denphone]

There has been a explosion in Oslo at a government HQ perhaps injuring dozens of people and there is a report of two fatalities.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...q-2318850.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ity-blast.html

[idi banashapan]

looks like carnage on BBC news 24

[denphone]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

looks like carnage on BBC news 24

Yes it does look very bad.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by denphone

Yes it does look very bad.

if only 2 people died in that, then that is very, very lucky. It's also good to see that the Norwiegians are NOT making any statement on whether this is terrorism yet, rather than immediately pointing fingers without evidence.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

if only 2 people died in that, then that is very, very lucky. It's also good to see that the Norwiegians are NOT making any statement on whether this is terrorism yet, rather than immediately pointing fingers without evidence.

Looking at the pictures first of all it looked terrible and yes its important that people don't jump to conclusions.

[idi banashapan]

news in - a man in police uniform has attacked a labour party youth camp with gunfire... this is looking really bad...

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

Looking at the pictures first of all it looked terrible and yes its important that people don't jump to conclusions.

Car bombs are a natural phenomenon? The explosion was outside the building.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

if only 2 people died in that, then that is very, very lucky. It's also good to see that the Norwiegians are NOT making any statement on whether this is terrorism yet, rather than immediately pointing fingers without evidence.

It's the media as opposed to the authorities who normally start speculating and pointing fingers in the confused immediate aftermath of such an event.

Let's hope this and the other event you've since reported aren't terrorist linked.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Osem

It's the media as opposed to the authorities who normally start speculating and pointing fingers in the confused immediate aftermath of such an event.

Let's hope this and the other event you've since reported aren't terrorist linked.

Yes lets do hope it is not terrorist linked.

[nomadking]

Of course what people mean, when saying that they hope it's not terrorist linked, is that it's not Islamic terrorism. It's hardly simply an accident.

It's being reported now that the Norwegian PM was due at the meeting where shots were fired, but didn't attend.

[sir_drinks_alot]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

news in - a man in police uniform has attacked a labour party youth camp with gunfire... this is looking really bad...

4 have dead in that attck

[denphone]

Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot

4 have dead in that attck

This is utterly sickening.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot

4 have dead in that attck

The captions are saying 5 injured not dead.

[sir_drinks_alot]

Originally Posted by denphone

This is utterly sickening.

yes yes it is wonder if the two attacks are linked ?

Originally Posted by nomadking

Of course what people mean, when saying that they hope it's not terrorist linked, is that it's not Islamic terrorism. It's hardly simply an accident.

It's being reported now that the Norwegian PM was due at the meeting where shots were fired, but didn't attend.

Yes, you are right, unless you live in Europe, especially in Northern Ireland, or France, or Spain....

Link

However, the overwhelming message emerging from a closer look at European terrorism is that regional separatist movements are by far the most active and widespread perpetrators of terrorist attacks. Of the successful terrorist attacks on European soil, 64% (160) were carried out by separatists. Whilst instances of separatist terrorism have been recorded in Austria, France and Italy, it is the Basque separatist movement ETA in Spain, and splinter factions of dissident republican organisations in Northern Ireland, that account for the vast majority of these incidents.

Indeed, it was the recent political rapprochement between ETA and the Spanish government, and the corresponding 50% decline in terrorist attacks in Spain, which has led to a 22% decline in overall terrorist incidents between 2009-2010. Meanwhile, as tragically illustrated earlier this year by the death of PC Ronan Kerr, Northern Irish terrorism has begun to increase once more.

This compares to 45 incidents of left-wing or anarchist terrorism (18% of the total), and a statistically minute 1% of successful attacks relating to jihadist groups (three in total). Al Qaeda and their ideological peers may grab the headlines, but they barely register in terms of successful attacks in Europe.

Beyond attacks, arrests and criminal charges levelled during counter-terror operations also paint a useful picture for understanding European terrorism. Here, once again, the majority of individuals held for terrorist offences were separatists: arrested in France (123), Spain (104) and the Republic of Ireland (57). Compared to this, only 179 individuals were arrested for Islamic terrorist offences, constituting 29% of all counter-terror arrests

Anyway, here's hoping they catch the culprits....