Superhub Superhub Firmware Beta Test - Page 45

20-07-2011, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984

Come on VM, some of us are waiting. I want to upgrade to 30 meg because the current 10 meg is pathetic. The STM limits are so low I can't even watch a single 1 hour HD TV show at peek times without being clobbered. I just need the Superhub to support bridge mode so I can use my own router.

Either that for just give me a proper modem...

You can configure the Hub to pass the broadband through to your own device

This Guide is for a Time Capsule but will work with most configurations

It took me 10 minutes to set up my Time Capsule, and now the Hub just acts as a "modem" with the TC doing all the rest

cook1984 · 21-07-2011, 18:24

Unfortunately using the DMZ is not quite the same as proper bridge mode, but thanks anyway.

21-07-2011, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984

Unfortunately using the DMZ is not quite the same as proper bridge mode, but thanks anyway.

Ok, no problem,

I was trying to give you an alternative until "proper bridge mode" is available

It works well for me thought it may have helped you

Phil-ntl · 22-07-2011, 16:36

And so it continues........

Quote:

The latest update from our firmware team is that the new firmware needs more testing before we can give it to our beta testers. In the last few days we've found another serious bug with Modem Mode which prevents us releasing the current version we're testing until this problem has been understood and fixed.

We understand your frustration and impatience about this but we can't compromise on the quality of the firmware. We are still close to a release but we can't do that until we're sure that it's ready.

I'll update you on our progress with testing next week and as soon as I have any news I'll post it here.

Thanks

Phil

Helix · 22-07-2011, 16:44

Its strange because no one seemed to report any issues with the modified R26 with bridge mode. So they have some how managed to muck up implementing a UI, surely a fairly basic change.

BenMcr · 22-07-2011, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix

Its strange because no one seemed to report any issues with the modified R26 with bridge mode.

Just because it wasn't picked up in testing, doesn't mean it isn't there - what has happened for some customers with the SuperHub since launch proves that.

It looks like Virgin have learnt from that, and whatever they are doing with the firmware this time around is picking up issues before a wider rollout would have done.

KenK · 22-07-2011, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Just because it wasn't picked up in testing, doesn't mean it isn't there - what has happened for some customers with the SuperHub since launch proves that.

It looks like Virgin have learnt from that, and whatever they are doing with the firmware this time around is picking up issues before a wider rollout would have done.

If only they'd applied the same principle before the initial escape of the device, none of this negative feedback would have happened.

Helix · 22-07-2011, 20:15

I wonder what they would do if it turned out to be something that couldn't be fixed with a Firmware update and it was hardware related.

KenK · 22-07-2011, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix

I wonder what they would do if it turned out to be something that couldn't be fixed with a Firmware update and it was hardware related.

Some of it is hardware - the size, the lights, the power consumption...

qasdfdsaq · 22-07-2011, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus

i they wanted to make up for past mistakes and get consumer confidence back they would setup a contract with Linksys/Cisco

Pfft. I've seen numerous problems with Linksys and Cisco products spanning the range from cheapo consumer routers to enterprise routers costing 10K+ a pop. They're no more immune to their fair share of problems than any other company.

---------- Post added at 00:43 ---------- Previous post was at 00:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I however am not under such an NDA - Huawei.

Hmm. I've got a distant relative who's pretty high up there. This could get... interesting.

---------- Post added at 00:44 ---------- Previous post was at 00:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave.m

The lights are most likely plain led's which take a miniscule amount of power. The real drain will come from the router/main cpu chip and wireless radio. Even if there were seperate chips for the router and modem, the user interface would most likely be controlled from the main cpu so switching that off would not likely be an option.

I'm sure we'll find out soon enough once R28 is released.

As I mentioned earlier, it's an integrated SoC so the modem and CPU are integrated in one chip. "Routers" are just a piece of software running on the CPU.

---------- Post added at 00:46 ---------- Previous post was at 00:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

I've not seen anybody post up the consumption in bridge mode but there is known to be a discrete WiFi board which could be powered down and although the main processor can't be turned off the switch circuitry presumably could be or at least run at reduced power (some switches have a "green" mode). I imagine the power required by the CPU should also drop with the reduced load.

I guess it all depends on how skilled the firmware coders are and how bothered they are about your leccy bill...

So - probably unchanged then

Compared to having to fork out for a router to do the job the supplied hub should be doing the extra power cost is pretty small beer.

Heh. I wouldn't hold my breath. Yeah there's a seperate switch chip, though even gigabit switches shouldn't take more than a couple watts when idle. Wireless chips like the one in the SH only take ~0.5-2w as well, so there's not a huge amount of scope for saving.

---------- Post added at 00:47 ---------- Previous post was at 00:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Just because it wasn't picked up in testing, doesn't mean it isn't there - what has happened for some customers with the SuperHub since launch proves that.

It looks like Virgin have learnt from that, and whatever they are doing with the firmware this time around is picking up issues before a wider rollout would have done.

Interesting. Issues that testers have been complaining about for months get ignored, but when there's an issue testers aren't even aware of it's suddenly classed as a show-stopper. Lol.

dave.m · 23-07-2011, 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Heh. I wouldn't hold my breath. Yeah there's a seperate switch chip, though even gigabit switches shouldn't take more than a couple watts when idle. Wireless chips like the one in the SH only take ~0.5-2w as well, so there's not a huge amount of scope for saving.

So potentially a 4w saving which would drop the device to 8.7w.

That could be a 31% drop in power usuage which is actuall very good imo. It should also produce less heat too with those chips off.

qasdfdsaq · 24-07-2011, 01:39

Yeah but down to 8.7w is still higher than what my dual-radio gigabit router uses at full load with everything on, and still several times higher than a standalone modem, which is what it'd be doing in that state.

Phil-ntl · 27-07-2011, 12:54

Looks like R28 has been binned...........

R29.JPG Capture R29.JPG

Phil

Helix · 27-07-2011, 13:02

Does this mean we are in for even more of a delay? or does it look like R29 is in a good enough state that they may release it to beta testers soon.

27-07-2011, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil-ntl

Looks like R28 has been binned...........

Attachment 22490 Attachment 22491

Phil

Hi Phil are those screen shots from your live modem or from beta testing