Gay atheist hero and genius Alan Turing honoured by the Queen

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

why is there so much emphasis on him being gay and a Atheist? what has that got to do with his achievements at Bletchley

I think him being gay was an issue at the time. so that's understandable. but him not believing in all things God. I don't see that being relevant.

[Welshchris]

Originally Posted by martyh

why is there so much emphasis on him being gay and a Atheist? what has that got to do with his achievements at Bletchley

this is what always makes me laff about when the Media reports things about us Gays especially if its a sex scandal. They always go over the top and try to make out we are all upto the kind of things that whoever is getting reported about for e.g. George Michael and the Bogs.

Originally Posted by Welshchris

this is what always makes me laff about when the Media reports things about us Gays especially if its a sex scandal. They always go over the top and try to make out we are all upto the kind of things that whoever is getting reported about for e.g. George Michael and the Bogs.

so why bother including his sexual preference and religious preference in the title of the thread it makes it read like being gay and a atheist is somehow contributory to his genius when in fact neither are anything special

and yes it is about time he was honoured

[devilincarnate]

Religion and sexual preference seem to be taking over a thread again? It seems to the ones that start off with a little bit of politics? The world is made up of all kinds and we should all just get along.

As I said before " LEST WE FORGET"

[Russ]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Religion and sexual preference seem to be taking over a thread again?

A bit hard to avoid it when both are referenced in the thread title.

[Ignitionnet]

The overtone of the thread was sexual orientation, nothing was taken over.

[Kymmy]

Fantastic tribute to Alan Turing and the rest of the codebreakers but I also have to ask what his sexual orientation and athiest views are to do with the honour??? Though looking at the site which you've linked the main story to I'm not surprised to see that it's an attempt to drag the story in a direction that isn;t relevant.

Here's a more relevant and sensible link which isn't trying to desperately use the unvieling as a political soapbox!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14164529

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

why is there so much emphasis on him being gay and a Atheist? what has that got to do with his achievements at Bletchley

None what so ever.

The man was a genius and still would have been if he had been a believer and straight.

[devilincarnate]

I will say SORRY for the posts that i have done?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Fantastic tribute to Alan Turing and the rest of the codebreakers but I also have to ask what his sexual orientation and athiest views are to do with the honour??? Though looking at the site which you've linked the main story to I'm not surprised to see that it's an attempt to drag the story in a direction that isn;t relevant.

Here's a more relevant and sensible link which isn't trying to desperately use the unvieling as a political soapbox!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14164529

Quite a scary site and I can assure most definitely not the voice of atheism any more than fundamentalism is the voice of Christianity whatever their opinion of themselves.

Obsession with sexuality isn't particularly becoming either. Not a great touchstone on your life when you define yourself by the gender of the people you have sex with. Making a big deal of such things doesn't really help breed tolerance or indifference.

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Fantastic tribute to Alan Turing and the rest of the codebreakers but I also have to ask what his sexual orientation and athiest views are to do with the honour??? Though looking at the site which you've linked the main story to I'm not surprised to see that it's an attempt to drag the story in a direction that isn;t relevant.

Here's a more relevant and sensible link which isn't trying to desperately use the unvieling as a political soapbox!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14164529

Thanks Kymmy a much more relevant article ,it doesn't mention Turin or his gayness or his atheism just everybody who worked there during the war years ..as it should be

[Kymmy]

This has also come 4 days after another Bletchley article on the BBC site referencing the three Polish mathematicians who were crucial tot he enigma code cracking

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-14141406

As for the first post in this thread is sounds like someones taking Little Britain's "Only gay in the village" a bit too seriously

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

As for the first post in this thread is sounds like someones taking Little Britain's "Only gay in the village" a bit too seriously

My feelings exactly

Originally Posted by Sirius

My feelings exactly

ditto

[Welshchris]

Originally Posted by martyh

so why bother including his sexual preference and religious preference in the title of the thread it makes it read like being gay and a atheist is somehow contributory to his genius when in fact neither are anything special

and yes it is about time he was honoured

because i just copied and pasted the headline thats why

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Quite a scary site and I can assure most definitely not the voice of atheism any more than fundamentalism is the voice of Christianity whatever their opinion of themselves.

Obsession with sexuality isn't particularly becoming either. Not a great touchstone on your life when you define yourself by the gender of the people you have sex with. Making a big deal of such things doesn't really help breed tolerance or indifference.

The Media in this has an obsession with Sexuality with men more than women and whats sickening about it tho it does start at a very young age. People have been speculating about the likes of Justin Bieber and Tom Daley since they were about 14yo.