13-06-2011, 18:15
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Services: XL tv/L internet, Tivo(1Tb.), SA V+.
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate
Yes I agree, But it has been stated that some installers are sub-contracted so they will be the last to know? ( Not sure if correct ) 
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Ah OK. I still think they should be properly briefed about current box issues but I take your point.
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13-06-2011, 19:08
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#332
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
I only know of picture quality issue because I own one or post on here, no official statement has been made to techs.
I think the hd picture is brilliant but sd isn't a patch on my sa v+
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13-06-2011, 19:16
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#333
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Services: XL tv/L internet, Tivo(1Tb.), SA V+.
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by jb66
I only know of picture quality issue because I own one or post on here, no official statement has been made to techs.
I think the hd picture is brilliant but sd isn't a patch on my sa v+
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I'm surprised they don't keep tech's updated with current issues. It would be easy to do wouldn't it? The pq issue being a case in point. How does a tech have a cat in hell's chance of dealing with problems like that if he doesn't know that there is a known issue.
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13-06-2011, 21:43
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#334
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Inactive
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
Had our much awaited TiVo installed last week was quite excited to.
The TiVo auto detected our Panasonic Plasma for 720 which is correct but oh dear the picture was very poor compared with our old SA V+ box.
We sit around 10ft from our 42 Inch Pana and the picture was just awful faces looked smudged, text at the top of the page on our local ITV weather was jumping  it gave a very soft image losing a lot of detail. All in all it was quite a drop from our SA V+ box.
Luckily for me setting the TiVO to 576i and allowing the panny to do the up scaling gave a much better picture until we could get our old SA V+ Box back and the TiVo removed.
Having used all VM Boxes in the past and having done some side by side comparisons on the same TV I would have to give the following out of 100 for up scaling.
SA V+ Box - 100/100
TiVo - 90/100
Samsung V+ Box - 85/100
I am sure on some TVs the difference would not be as noticeable as ours, and I imagine anyone upgrading from a Samsung V+ Box also wouldn’t notice much difference if any at all.
Glad to have our SA Box back now  might even try the TiVo again later in the year when this has been fixed in an update.
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13-06-2011, 23:32
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#335
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sawbridgeworth
Services: Vivid 200
Tivo 500GB
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by skatzz
Glad to have our SA Box back now  might even try the TiVo again later in the year when this has been fixed in an update.
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I've been tempted by the 500GB offer, but I think I will also hold off until the pq issue is resolved.
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13-06-2011, 23:39
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#336
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
Do you actually watch much SD these days?
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14-06-2011, 00:32
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#337
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by WDLaserjetGLOVER
Do you actually watch much SD these days?
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Loads, annoyingly. Of the 700 odd mb of stuff on my TiVo, only 28 episodes are HD. Not through choice either!
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14-06-2011, 09:41
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hell
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
A update from the VM TiVo forum?
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Quick update: have not forgotten about beta trials. Our trialist team is still working through all of the details as this is something that we, as a company, have not done on this scale before. They have all applications and necessary information, and will be in touch as soon as they are ready. For those wondering, the build you will see has not been pushed to the beta trialist team yet, so rest assured that you are not missing out because of this delay.
Nick
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http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ty/td-p/500443
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14-06-2011, 11:04
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Inactive
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
I've had my TiVo for a month now and like everyone else was very disappointed with the PQ compared to my previous V+ box.
My tv is a Sony Bravia 40" model and after reading comments on here and other forums I decided to play with my tv settings
The first thing I did was change the Display Area to Full pixel and that made a big difference. Then I increased the sharpness settings.
It is now an excellent picture might even be better than V+ so I recommend people to experiment with their settings before complaining to Virgin.
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14-06-2011, 14:09
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#340
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Inactive
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northampton
Age: 48
Services: Vivid 300Mb, Tivo V6, Tivo (Full House TV)
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
To be honest I haven't noticed any change in picture quality between my SA V+ and my Tivo. I would say it's worth checking TV settings, all devices vary. I have different settings for DVD player, Xbox and TV, connected through Sony AV receiver to a Samsung 40" LCD with 1:1 Pixel mapping.
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16-06-2011, 11:24
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#341
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 82
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by marlman
I've had my TiVo for a month now and like everyone else was very disappointed with the PQ compared to my previous V+ box.
My tv is a Sony Bravia 40" model and after reading comments on here and other forums I decided to play with my tv settings
The first thing I did was change the Display Area to Full pixel and that made a big difference. Then I increased the sharpness settings.
It is now an excellent picture might even be better than V+ so I recommend people to experiment with their settings before complaining to Virgin.
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I have a Sony Bravia kdl32v4000 and do not have the menu facility to change any settings, only the basic colour, contrast etc etc and unable to improve the pq quality like yourself to that to my previous Virgin+ box
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16-06-2011, 11:46
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#342
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Market Harborough
Services: Freeview HD, TNTSat (France), Apple TV
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by videodj
To be honest I haven't noticed any change in picture quality between my SA V+ and my Tivo. I would say it's worth checking TV settings, all devices vary. I have different settings for DVD player, Xbox and TV, connected through Sony AV receiver to a Samsung 40" LCD with 1:1 Pixel mapping.
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You see, not all of us have that luxury. I have one hdmi input so have bought a high quality Octavo hdmi switch box to route everything through. I set up my plasma with DVD Essentials and the picture looks really good with everything apart from TiVo. I don't accept that TiVo should require a different setup to everything else in order to display a decent picture.
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20-06-2011, 12:37
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by fredtheted
I have a Sony Bravia kdl32v4000 and do not have the menu facility to change any settings, only the basic colour, contrast etc etc and unable to improve the pq quality like yourself to that to my previous Virgin+ box
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Being completely dis-satified with the picture quality, lack of programme reminder and padding default, I have swallowed the bullet and exercised my TIVO 28 day return option and am going back to Virgin+hd.
I do not think 'Retentions' were very happy, as they are delivering a replacement box tomorrow, no set time- just an all day wait-, and have to install this myself. They will arrange to pick up the TIVO at a later date, but this will be at a time that i am agreeable with. They did offer to send someone to reinstall, but wait for it the earliest date was 16 July.
I know Virgin are looking into these problems, but who knows how long the wait for any solution, if any.
Their engineers response to the picture quality was change my lcd tv to an led tv.
PS... is it easy to reinstall the Virgin+ hd box, bearing in mind I am 68?
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20-06-2011, 12:42
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#344
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by fredtheted
Being completely dis-satified with the picture quality, lack of programme reminder and padding default, I have swallowed the bullet and exercised my TIVO 28 day return option and am going back to Virgin+hd.
I do not think 'Retentions' were very happy, as they are delivering a replacement box tomorrow, no set time- just an all day wait-, and have to install this myself. They will arrange to pick up the TIVO at a later date, but this will be at a time that i am agreeable with. They did offer to send someone to reinstall, but wait for it the earliest date was 16 July.
I know Virgin are looking into these problems, but who knows how long the wait for any solution, if any.
Their engineers response to the picture quality was change my lcd tv to an led tv.
PS... is it easy to reinstall the Virgin+ hd box, bearing in mind I am 68?
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A hard decision for you, I had exactly the same choice to make and just came down on the other side. I'm still twiddling my thumbs waiting for the first proper software update (beta or otherwise) and each day I wonder if I made the right choice. For now I think I did, but ask me again in a month.
Boz
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20-06-2011, 12:56
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cf.geek
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Plymouth
Services: VIP Bundle, with 350Mb BB and 2 x V6 boxes
Posts: 750
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Re: TiVo Picture Quality
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Originally Posted by DaBoz
A hard decision for you, I had exactly the same choice to make and just came down on the other side. I'm still twiddling my thumbs waiting for the first proper software update (beta or otherwise) and each day I wonder if I made the right choice. For now I think I did, but ask me again in a month.
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Lets hope it comes soon, though I went into this with eyes wide open expecting there to be some early adopter headaches. For me the stability and small hard drive made the SA V+ unusable in the end. At least the TIVO solves both those major issues. I must admit, I was expecting to be blown away by the TIVO. After having it for a few months I just find it clunky and at times annoying to be honest. If they'd have brought out a box as fast and reliable as the V-HD with a 1Tb hard drive with the old software, I think I'd have been just as happy with it.
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