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[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

They can stream films, and their library will increase rapidly in the near future. Eventually there will be more on there than Filmflex can offer, and they will have TV programmes too.

They can stream films but the range is diabolical at the moment , they can't get many others as BSKYB have exclusive deals hence the investigation.

[Chad]

It would be great if Virgin could negotiate a deal where any movie broadcast on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Film 4 is offered for 7 days on a catch up basis. So for example today on terrestrial TV we have the following movies which we could access for 7 days via catch up:

Taffin - BBC1
Back to The Future III - ITV
Orphan - Channel 4
Vinyan - Channel 4
Wyoming Renegades - Channel 5
The Ride to Hangman's Tree - Channel 5
Last of the Dogmen - Channel 5
Fun with Dick and Jane - Channel 5
Miss Congeniality - Channel 5
Proof of Life - Channel 5
Nine Months - E4
High School Musical 3: Senior Year - 5*
The China Syndrome - 5USA
Baby Mama - ITV2
Tin Cup - ITV3
Inside I'm Dancing - ITV3
Scary Movie - Film4
Springfield Rifle - Film4
Sister Act - Film4
Girls! Girls! Girls! - Film4
The Duellists - Film4
The Italian Job - Film4
Alfie - Film4
Candy - Film4

Over the space of 7 days you'd quickly build up a library of over 100 films that you could watch for free even on M, M+ and L packages. It would be a better service than Picturebox and a very basic version of SKY's Anytime+ Movie service. Whilst the films on offer wouldn't be anywhere near as good as SKY's offering, at least you wouldn't have to subscribe to any movie channel to enjoy Virgins offering.

To pay for this service non skipable adverts could be included at the start of the movie, during the movie and at the end. The movies from BBC should be included for free as part of iplayer.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Chad

It would be great if Virgin could negotiate a deal where any movie broadcast on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Film 4 is offered for 7 days on a catch up basis. So for example today on terrestrial TV we have the following movies which we could access for 7 days via catch up:

Taffin - BBC1
Back to The Future III - ITV
Orphan - Channel 4
Vinyan - Channel 4
Wyoming Renegades - Channel 5
The Ride to Hangman's Tree - Channel 5
Last of the Dogmen - Channel 5
Fun with Dick and Jane - Channel 5
Miss Congeniality - Channel 5
Proof of Life - Channel 5
Nine Months - E4
High School Musical 3: Senior Year - 5*
The China Syndrome - 5USA
Baby Mama - ITV2
Tin Cup - ITV3
Inside I'm Dancing - ITV3
Scary Movie - Film4
Springfield Rifle - Film4
Sister Act - Film4
Girls! Girls! Girls! - Film4
The Duellists - Film4
The Italian Job - Film4
Alfie - Film4
Candy - Film4

Over the space of 7 days you'd quickly build up a library of over 100 films that you could watch for free even on M, M+ and L packages. It would be a better service than Picturebox and a very basic version of SKY's Anytime+ Movie service. Whilst the films on offer wouldn't be anywhere near as good as SKY's offering, at least you wouldn't have to subscribe to any movie channel to enjoy Virgins offering.

To pay for this service non skipable adverts could be included at the start of the movie, during the movie and at the end. The movies from BBC should be included for free as part of iplayer.

Yes agree with that , however it all comes down to rights again , aside from Sky the movie companies are extremely greedy.

[Chad]

Good point Muppetman. You know what if this service could be added for say an extra £2.00 per month, with the money going to satisfy the rights holders, I'd actually be interested.

I suppose if you had TIVO with it's 500 hour capacity, the box would quickly learn what type of movies you enjoyed and would record what it thinks you'd like. If you subscribe to SKY Movies, I'm sure TIVO could easily record 100 movies + per week from all channels across the board.

At the risk of going off topic, can any TIVO users confirm if their box suggests and records a lot of movies for them?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

True, but we are talking about increasing profits for VM. We are not expecting it to be free. We just want the choice. Why is this such a difficult concept?

Who said it was difficult - the only concept people seem to find difficult is VM make their own decisions on what they will or wont do.

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

We are currently discussing OnDemand, not Tivo functionality.

I dont recall putting you in charge of whats discussed in this thread.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

If your a Sky Sports subscriber it's about 7.50 more so not bad value , however if you take only Sky movies It's a whopping 21.50 on VM which is a complete rip off and the prices are pretty much the same on Sky.

The price for just the Movies channels is exactly the same; but to add the Sky Sports Pack is and extra £11.50. So which is the "rip-off" again?

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Think the ideal for customers of Sky and Virgin would be if you could just pick the channels you wanted.

Unfortunately this will never happen. Sky's way of packaging channels is possibly better than VM, but then it's nice to have all the channels available should I ever want to watch any one of them at some point.

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Originally Posted by Chad

It would be great if Virgin could negotiate a deal where any movie broadcast on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Film 4 is offered for 7 days on a catch up basis. So for example today on terrestrial TV we have the following movies which we could access for 7 days via catch up.

Or you could just record them?

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Originally Posted by Paul M

I dont recall putting you in charge of whats discussed in this thread.

I wasn't assuming any such role

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Originally Posted by Chad

At the risk of going off topic, can any TIVO users confirm if their box suggests and records a lot of movies for them?

I don't seem to recall any movies being suggested for me, but then I don't record that many and haven't given many the thumbs-up.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Chad

It would be great if Virgin could negotiate a deal where any movie broadcast on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Film 4 is offered for 7 days on a catch up basis. So for example today on terrestrial TV we have the following movies which we could access for 7 days via catch up:

Taffin - BBC1
Back to The Future III - ITV
Orphan - Channel 4
Vinyan - Channel 4
Wyoming Renegades - Channel 5
The Ride to Hangman's Tree - Channel 5
Last of the Dogmen - Channel 5
Fun with Dick and Jane - Channel 5
Miss Congeniality - Channel 5
Proof of Life - Channel 5
Nine Months - E4
High School Musical 3: Senior Year - 5*
The China Syndrome - 5USA
Baby Mama - ITV2
Tin Cup - ITV3
Inside I'm Dancing - ITV3
Scary Movie - Film4
Springfield Rifle - Film4
Sister Act - Film4
Girls! Girls! Girls! - Film4
The Duellists - Film4
The Italian Job - Film4
Alfie - Film4
Candy - Film4

Over the space of 7 days you'd quickly build up a library of over 100 films that you could watch for free even on M, M+ and L packages. It would be a better service than Picturebox and a very basic version of SKY's Anytime+ Movie service. Whilst the films on offer wouldn't be anywhere near as good as SKY's offering, at least you wouldn't have to subscribe to any movie channel to enjoy Virgins offering.

To pay for this service non skipable adverts could be included at the start of the movie, during the movie and at the end. The movies from BBC should be included for free as part of iplayer.

Its not that straight forward. Many of the movies on TV are bought with the rites to be broadcast on the main channel and do not include any extra showings or rites to be shown on Catch Up TV or VOD. Its a very complicated subject.

Recently Star wars was on ITV but it was not on ITV +1 for that very reason.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

The price for just the Movies channels is exactly the same; but to add the Sky Sports Pack is and extra £11.50. So which is the "rip-off" again?

Carl this is what I mean

I'm a sports fan so I will always sub to Sky Sports which on VM would cost me 22.50 to add movies it would cost 29.50 so 7.00 more which seems acceptable to me.

Someone into Movies alone has to pay 21.50 which compared to Lovefilms unlimited one disc at a time at a cost of 9.99 is expensive.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

True, but we are talking about increasing profits for VM. We are not expecting it to be free. We just want the choice. Why is this such a difficult concept?

That is, of course, assuming the extra money they bring in covers the extra cost of the content.

You've got the biggest on demand library of any TV provider in the UK and your wanting more on demand?

BT have ABC on Demand and Sky have on demand posing as the "self proclaimed" worlds greatest TV channel. We have BBC/ITV/4/5 catchup TV that Sky don't have and BT have BBC that you pay for/ITV/4 . There is very little else Virgin can add on demand and I already made the large list of channels in comparison to Sky in the ITV 2 HD thread.

If your unhappy with your TV service move. The number of people unhappy with Virgin TV vastly outweights the number of people unhappy with ADSL broadband. If you've got the money to afford VM Internet/Sky TV do it if there is that many problems with Virgin TV.

EDIT: Oh yeah and films. They have to run 60 channels and you still can't watch what when you want (and pretty much never if you want it in HD), we have films on tap. If you want LoveFilm, get LoveFilm. And we have Film4 HD, the best free film channel in the UK (I presume that is the general opinion) exclusively on VM.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

You've got the biggest on demand library of any TV provider in the UK and your wanting more on demand?

BT have ABC on Demand and Sky have on demand posing as the "self proclaimed" worlds greatest TV channel. We have BBC/ITV/4/5 catchup TV that Sky don't have and BT have BBC that you pay for/ITV/4 . There is very little else Virgin can add on demand and I already made the large list of channels in comparison to Sky in the ITV 2 HD thread.

If your unhappy with your TV service move. The number of people unhappy with Virgin TV vastly outweights the number of people unhappy with ADSL broadband. If you've got the money to afford VM Internet/Sky TV do it if there is that many problems with Virgin TV.

EDIT: Oh yeah and films. They have to run 60 channels and you still can't watch what when you want (and pretty much never if you want it in HD), we have films on tap. If you want LoveFilm, get LoveFilm. And we have Film4 HD, the best free film channel in the UK (I presume that is the general opinion) exclusively on VM.

The content on VM TV Choice OD doesn't get updated anywhere nearly frequent enough , there's content still on from TW days.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

The content on VM TV Choice OD doesn't get updated anywhere nearly frequent enough , there's content still on from TW days.

So 2007 and prior shows shouldn't be (put) on? I've always wanted to start watching House from the second half of Season 4.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

So 2007 and prior shows shouldn't be (put) on? I've always wanted to start watching House from the second half of Season 4.

That's fine but some new content wouldn't go a miss , I think your avatar says it all really , maybe you should try another companies service before slating them all. BT Vision only has ABC On Demand there seemed a lot more on it when I had it.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

The number of people unhappy with Virgin TV vastly outweights the number of people unhappy with ADSL broadband.

There are more people unhappy with their VM TV serice than with their ADSL broadband service? How is that relevant? It's also meaninless without actual figures or context.

VM focus on Broadband.
Sky focus on TV.

Quite relevant.