Virgin Media lack of tv investment

[alwaysabear]

I see VM have spent approx $15.6 million(£9.5 million) buying back there own shares in the last week.
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....556&highlight=
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....577&highlight=

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

I see VM have spent approx $15.6 million(£9.5 million) buying back there own shares in the last week.
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....556&highlight=
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....577&highlight=

Wish they had buy some new content whilst there at it

[Rillington]

Originally Posted by Stephen

VM tend to only increase the prices when they have to. ie when Sky raise their prices.

What channels were lost recently?

The channels that VM chose to remove were MTV Classic, MTV +1 and MTV Shows.

The channels that have been shut down on all platforms are the Bravo channels and Channel One and its timeshift. They were closed by the channel's new owners.

Altogether around ten channels have disappeared from VM and just one - ITV1's timeshift channel - has been added. Yes I know that the Sky Arts HD channels have also appeared but they had been waiting to be laucnhed for many months and they are just a HD simulcast of a channel already on the platform rather than a new channel.

I know that True Entertainment has appeared fairly recently but another channel was removed at the same time.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I don't know if you are referring to me but I have no bias toward Virgin Media at all. My posts are my own opinions and I make my own mind up about whether I like something or not.

I might work for them but that doesn't mean I will always stick up for everything the company does. What I post in here is what I think.

You sure about that, l be keeping my eye on your opinions.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

A couple of services....seriously?

Perhaps Sky Movies, Sky Sports, 30mb BB, XL TV, TiVo and another V+ box may be the reason your bill has gone up? What services did you have when you paid £30?

fwiw, my bill (not including call charges) has gone up around £5 in the last 2 years, but I have gained TiVo and an upgrade to 30Mb, so I consider that reasonable - ymmv.

I am talking about 5 years ago when it was 30 quid and l suspect with your close contacts you will get some tidy discounts.

Once again, you are mistaken - the only discounts I get are the standard XL bundle discount, and a £6 per month discount for a year because when I upgraded to 30Mb, they put on a charge they shouldn't have, and this balances that.

But I am sure you will caveat your smear/innuendo with "I was only joking".

FYI, I have no contacts with VM (formal or informal), and I receive no discounts for being a mod (as there is no connection between VM and CF, besides an informal one for escalating CF'ers problems).

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Once again, you are mistaken - the only discounts I get are the standard XL bundle discount, and a £6 per month discount for a year because when I upgraded to 30Mb, they put on a charge they shouldn't have, and this balances that.

But I am sure you will caveat your smear/innuendo with with "I was only joking".

FYI, I have no contacts with VM (formal or informal), and I receive no discounts for being a mod (as there is no connection between VM and CF, besides an informal one for escalating CF'ers problems).

l am not in to smear and innuendo and resent that comment and my advice to you is to calm down and have a cup of tea.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by denphone

l am not in to smear and innuendo and resent that comment and my advice to you is to calm down and have a cup of tea.

I think it is you that needs to calm down Denphone. You post to try and wind people up and don't like it when you get called out for it.

[Chrysalis]

I would invest in broadband instead of tv also. I think its more future proof as tv on schedule is a dying trend. VOD is taking over slowly as well as IPTV. Also do VM still make a loss on various tv services? if so it would make sense to not invest in that.

[LexDiamond]

The whole 'prices have gone up so I should get more channels' really annoys me.

I'm not a VM tv customer anymore but if I had been I presume my price would have gone up from 24.50 to 25.50. That is around 4% which is also around the inflation rate. I doubt VM actually make any increases in margin through the increase. So why people keep on expecting more channels is beyond me when the price increase wasn't actually to increase its margins. This thread is full of some members that are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I would invest in broadband instead of tv also. I think its more future proof as tv on schedule is a dying trend. VOD is taking over slowly as well as IPTV. Also do VM still make a loss on various tv services? if so it would make sense to not invest in that.

You wouldn't think so looking at what's on TV Choice on demand.

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond

The whole 'prices have gone up so I should get more channels' really annoys me.

I'm not a VM tv customer anymore but if I had been I presume my price would have gone up from 24.50 to 25.50. That is around 4% which is also around the inflation rate. I doubt VM actually make any increases in margin through the increase. So why people keep on expecting more channels is beyond me when the price increase wasn't actually to increase its margins. This thread is full of some members that are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Possibly some peoples bills are the same or more than Sky , if your theory is correct why do companies feel the need to tell you what's being added on the price rise letter , its because they no full well people expect more.

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

You wouldn't think so looking at what's on TV Choice on demand.

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Possibly some peoples bills are the same or more than Sky , if your theory is correct why do companies feel the need to tell you what's being added on the price rise letter , its because they no full well people expect more.

My theory is correct as inflation is a fact.

If, e.g., VM tv faces inflation of 3% a year on the selling price of a sub and let's say at a price of 24.50 VM do not raise their price for 5 years then in year 5 as per VM's inflation rate they should have received 28.40 but only receive 24.50 meaning they lose 3.90 on each sub that year. That 3.90 is an actual loss of revenue per sub to VM as they pay 3.90 more to deliver that sub.

Originally Posted by denphone

You sure about that, l be keeping my eye on your opinions.

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I am talking about 5 years ago when it was 30 quid and l suspect with your close contacts you will get some tidy discounts.

Originally Posted by denphone

l am not in to smear and innuendo and resent that comment and my advice to you is to calm down and have a cup of tea.

A pity your posts do not support each other....

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

My theory is correct as inflation is a fact.

If, e.g., VM tv faces inflation of 3% a year on the selling price of a sub and let's say at a price of 24.50 VM do not raise their price for 5 years then in year 5 as per VM's inflation rate they should have received 28.40 but only receive 24.50 meaning they lose 3.90 on each sub that year. That 3.90 is an actual loss of revenue per sub to VM as they pay 3.90 more to deliver that sub.

I was more referring to , people will always expect more especially when prices go up , be it right or wrong , its easy to switch to another service or go down the freeview , youview route.

[carlwaring]

Yet they also expect prices to fall when channels, most of which are not under VM's control, close, even though they also don't rise when channels are added

[royaltiger]

Its about time vm got rid of the packs and charge for each channel individually, at least then you are getting what you pay for and removing 50% of the rubbish you dont watch or need thats buddled into each pack to look like your getting a large amount of channels.