Who has the best broadband.

[denphone]

Yes its been excellent down here since l have had it.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I've only ever had VM so how the hell can I judge the other suppliers?

Say's it all about the uselessness of this thread.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Say's it all about the uselessness of this thread.

Any suggestions then.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by denphone

Any suggestions then.

a) Decide what it is you really want to know.

b) Define the parameters for the poll.

The quickest is not always the best. VM are rated top by OFCOM for their headline speeds but a sizable number of users would rate them bottom for gamng purposes due to latentcy, jitter and bad pings.

Advertising (and VM are by no means the worst), Unlimited service but they don't explain what it actually means. VM tend to say you can download what you like when you like and then impose STM and traffic shaping (which I have no problem with) but then contact customers who they deem are using too much!

You are perfoming a poll on a cable forum, who do you expect to answer it- VM users!

FWIW I first started with the internet in 2001 (I think) with NTL's dial up service then progressed to Wanadoo, BT and ended up on NTL broadband.

I stayed with them until about 2007 and then went to BE. I stayed with them until moving in 2009 and because of the problem I would've had with an ADSL connection returned to VM.

I was very happy with VM until October last year, now I'm with BT Infinity which I am happy with due to the higher upload on their 40/10 package and their phone bundle.( I don't get that speed but more than advised).

I now await BE to start offering an FTTC product then I will go back to the immediately. Although they also use offshore support it is miles better than India (Iam not racist either).

[Stephen]

Well obviously I have voted for VM not because I work for them but because I have had them as my supplier for 8 years and have never used any of the other suppliers.

So for me and most other members of the forum it's a pretty pointless thread.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well obviously I have voted for VM not because I work for them but because I have had them as my supplier for 8 years and have never used any of the other suppliers.

So for me and most other members of the forum it's a pretty pointless thread.

What I said in the first place and didn't bother to vote.

[Tech_Boy]

I have used and tech'd many different ADSL connections for friends and family, and would not touch one with a 10 foot bargepole, especially VM's "National" service, which a cousin of mine has.

[Chrysalis]

I will be a bit more specific about my vote since people are starting to call the poll pointless.

Since 2000 I have used the following isps.

freeserve - adsl
nildram - adsl
ntl - cable
nildram - adsl
aaisp - adsl
entanet (via reseller) - adsl
ukonline (resold easynet) - adsl
virgin media - cable and xilo - adsl

adsl was fine with freeserve at the start, the half mbit product wasnt hindered by line length, good in comparison to cable and things like openreach didnt exist so BT were still a reasonable company. First nildram spell was good as well, and was with nildram's original owners. Spell with ntl was rough, although faster sync speed than previous adsl the congestion was consistent for the entire 4 years or so on the service and peering/transit quality was aweful with daily downtimes of transit links going down and lots of weird routing eg. going over cheap cogent to france, germany than to the states.
second spell with nildram was nothing like the first, at this time I was on adsl max (8meg product) and line length screwed me down to approx 6mbit but on top of this the line was extremely unstable, I had a nightmare year with lots of engineer callouts, 10+ line drops a day and low sync speeds going as low as 3mbit. Nildram support was lower due to new owners, aaisp were a good isp they came down on BT hard for my line issues but ultimately couldnt fix the ultimate issue of it bneen a crap long line but did get some issues fixed so it at least stabilised to maybe one drop every week or so. aaisp however expensive and I had a 6 gig prime time usage limit during office hours. after many aaisp side outages as they kept playing with their homebuilt linux routers I went to entanet which was a more favourable usage limit and much more stable however the service proved to be a tad oversold so I left fo rukonline my first LLU isp. Ukonline had a feature called SRA which made the line very stable, 6mbit or so sync speed lasted for months without dropout (the only uk isp to use this feature tho), no congestion and was as good as it gets for adsl but ultimately line length hindered my connection. I stayed with ukonline until the day sky cut its throat and am now with VM, I had a brief spell with xilo on adsl who compared to ukonline were poor especially with .us transit quality, speeds from .us were very slow affecting page loads on sites signficantly and the loss of SRA started giving me some line issues again although not major but did exist. Current spell with VM started rough but ultimately the 20mbit and now 30mbit service is almost quadruple what any adsl isp can give me and is fairly stable. If I sign up to 50mbit I will be 9 times as fast as what any adsl isp could give me, hence me saying VM are miles ahead.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Tech_Boy

I have used and tech'd many different ADSL connections for friends and family, and would not touch one with a 10 foot bargepole, especially VM's "National" service, which a cousin of mine has.

What about VDSL or FTTP though?

Horses for courses, still a totally pointless thread.

VDSL connection with infinity



BT's own speed test result

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Test1 comprises of two tests

1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
35345 Kbps

0 Kbps 38717 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

> Download speedachieved during the test was - 35345 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 12000-38717 Kbps .
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is -38717 Kbps

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
8067 Kbps

0 Kbps 10000 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

>Upload speed achieved during the test was - 8067 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 10000 Kbps

[denphone]

Originally Posted by pip08456

a) Decide what it is you really want to know.

b) Define the parameters for the poll.

The quickest is not always the best. VM are rated top by OFCOM for their headline speeds but a sizable number of users would rate them bottom for gamng purposes due to latentcy, jitter and bad pings.

Advertising (and VM are by no means the worst), Unlimited service but they don't explain what it actually means. VM tend to say you can download what you like when you like and then impose STM and traffic shaping (which I have no problem with) but then contact customers who they deem are using too much!

You are perfoming a poll on a cable forum, who do you expect to answer it- VM users!

FWIW I first started with the internet in 2001 (I think) with NTL's dial up service then progressed to Wanadoo, BT and ended up on NTL broadband.

I stayed with them until about 2007 and then went to BE. I stayed with them until moving in 2009 and because of the problem I would've had with an ADSL connection returned to VM.

I was very happy with VM until October last year, now I'm with BT Infinity which I am happy with due to the higher upload on their 40/10 package and their phone bundle.( I don't get that speed but more than advised).

I now await BE to start offering an FTTC product then I will go back to the immediately. Although they also use offshore support it is miles better than India (Iam not racist either).

My, My you deserve 5 stars.

---------- Post added at 17:57 ---------- Previous post was at 17:55 ----------

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well obviously I have voted for VM not because I work for them but because I have had them as my supplier for 8 years and have never used any of the other suppliers.

So for me and most other members of the forum it's a pretty pointless thread.

You speak for others do you, christ you have got a big influence.

---------- Post added at 17:58 ---------- Previous post was at 17:57 ----------

Originally Posted by pip08456

What about VDSL or FTTP though?

Horses for courses, still a totally pointless thread.

So is your pointless constant moaning.

[pip08456]

As most posters have likened their connection to ADSL it is not really moaning.

You posted the poll and you should have considered all parameters rather than just making VM look good.

To find out the best BB provider you are only polling VM customers so the result is bound to be rubbish.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by denphone

You speak for others do you, christ you have got a big influence.

Yes I think I do Especially as an other person agrees with me lol.

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by pip08456

a) Decide what it is you really want to know.

b) Define the parameters for the poll.

The quickest is not always the best. VM are rated top by OFCOM for their headline speeds but a sizable number of users would rate them bottom for gamng purposes due to latentcy, jitter and bad pings.

Advertising (and VM are by no means the worst), Unlimited service but they don't explain what it actually means. VM tend to say you can download what you like when you like and then impose STM and traffic shaping (which I have no problem with) but then contact customers who they deem are using too much!

You are perfoming a poll on a cable forum, who do you expect to answer it- VM users!

FWIW I first started with the internet in 2001 (I think) with NTL's dial up service then progressed to Wanadoo, BT and ended up on NTL broadband.

I stayed with them until about 2007 and then went to BE. I stayed with them until moving in 2009 and because of the problem I would've had with an ADSL connection returned to VM.

I was very happy with VM until October last year, now I'm with BT Infinity which I am happy with due to the higher upload on their 40/10 package and their phone bundle.( I don't get that speed but more than advised).

I now await BE to start offering an FTTC product then I will go back to the immediately. Although they also use offshore support it is miles better than India (Iam not racist either).

- ditto that -

I'll see you there.

I was advised today that Infinity has gone live in my area so just got to wait for Be to get their ass in gear and serve out the remainder of the 12 month contract I got conned into when VM took my £30 for the 20meg to 30meg upgrade.

Actually, , I still got my BePro adsl as a back up so it won't cost me any more to have both for a while.

[Ignitionnet]

I'll elaborate a bit.

So long as you don't need to download huge amounts 9am-9pm, use NNTP/P2P at peak periods much, and it works VM is better than any ADSL and only FTTx matches up, as expected given VM is FTTN.

In current and previous addresses VM has failed on the last point, each and every time apart from one of the 5 addresses I've had the service it has had major issues. For me DSL has always been slower, at least on downstream, yes, but reliability and consistency wise streets ahead.

Originally Posted by denphone

So is your pointless constant moaning.