05-05-2011, 08:58
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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They're against Britain being overrun by immigrants.
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Who - the BNP?
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05-05-2011, 08:59
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
Yes.
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05-05-2011, 09:00
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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Yes.
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They are also intellectually stunted morons.
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05-05-2011, 09:01
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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Yes.
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yes to what AV ???????
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05-05-2011, 09:04
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
They are also intellectually stunted morons.
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Fair point.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
yes to what AV ???????
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No, to the BNP.
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05-05-2011, 09:07
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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Originally Posted by MartJ
Parties supporting FPTP
Conservatives
BNP
Communist Party
Strange Bedfollows
Those supporting AV
Labour (a significant number including Leader Ed Miliband)
Liberal Democrats
Green Party
UKIP
Plaid Cymru
SNP
A number of smaller parties
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Actually I think you'll find that Labour has no policy position on AV - certainly there's no justification for listing them as a Party 'supporting' it.
Once you compile a list of parties which actually do support AV as a policy, you find you have a list of fringe parties for whom changing the electoral system is simply a matter of self interest. No surprise there.
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They're against Britain being overrun by immigrants.
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They're also against AV, so on that basis will you be voting no to AV today?
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05-05-2011, 09:08
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
Another thought - I've had more people turn up (as opposed to leaflet drops) to try to get me to vote for / against AV than for the actual local election thing.
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05-05-2011, 09:09
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
The AV issue directly affects the politicians - the electoral system is what determines who gets to stick their snout in the trough for five years. No surprise they've all taken a keen interest in it. 
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05-05-2011, 09:09
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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They're also against AV, so on that basis will you be voting no to AV today?
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I've already voted for Who is this Nick Clegg person anyway?
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05-05-2011, 09:10
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
Fair enough for a CF poll, but you might be surprised if you turn up at the polling station expecting to find that option there.
You are going to vote?
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05-05-2011, 09:10
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
Which ever wins, the working class will pay, that's those who keep the rest
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05-05-2011, 09:11
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
I do love a rigorous piece of political analysis.
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05-05-2011, 09:13
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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Originally Posted by Chris
You are going to vote?
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No.
I don't bother with politics.
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05-05-2011, 09:20
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
If anyone thinks that changing the voting system would prevent politicians having their snout in the trough, they will be mistaken.
The key thing with this, which is what I have failed to see discussed in any meaningful way from any camp in the av discussion is whether politicians would be more accountable to their electorate, rather than their party policy and would thus vote and promote their local electorate's concerns rather than party issues. Will av end up with a risk of hung parliaments or favour a particular party to a greater degree than the current system. How likely is it that a minority, perhaps the third running candidate on first preference votes gets in because of the countback system.
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05-05-2011, 09:22
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Re: To AV, or not to AV?
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I hope you're not going to be complaining about the result then?
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No.
as long as it's the right one 
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