A new flood of migrants ?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

The very same argument could be made about many bankers - migrant or not.

Touche (sorry can't be bothered to accentuate correctly !)

[danielf]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Some interesting polling results:

Mark Easton's blog

Sadly, this is so true. I don't know why the Brits are such a xenophobic lot. Perhaps it's the island thing, but whatever the reason, it's pretty sad.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Ok then, labour for example cheap fruit and vegtables... who picks them ?

Migrants.

Skilled shortage areas such as Dr's., Surgeons.

Migrants.

Low paid, low skilled jobs that perhaps some UK citizens neither have the time nor inclanation to accept due to them being more interested in reproducing and paying for things out of catalogues on the never never......

Migrants again!
Can they afford to rent the house they live in out of the low wages that nobody else will work for, or is that paid for them?

There's a few to get you started

Thanks.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Great stuff, can we do that with all the workshy bone idle gits who refuse to get jobs and instead play the system for all they can ?

Would love to. Plenty of them near me to start with.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Migrants.



Migrants.



Migrants again!
Can they afford to rent the house they live in out of the low wages that nobody else will work for, or is that paid for them?



Thanks.

So therefore you would agree that migration is neccesary ?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So therefore you would agree that migration is neccesary ?

No.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by danielf

Sadly, this is so true. I don't know why the Brits are such a xenophobic lot. Perhaps it's the island thing, but whatever the reason, it's pretty sad.

We haven't been an island since construction of the channel tunnel was complete.....

Insular people in their insular worlds. shame really ?

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Would love to. Plenty of them near me to start with.

If you're in warrington I understand your statement. I had a partner who lived in Newton Le Willows ......

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Originally Posted by Gary L

No.

So erm, remove the migration element and who exactly replaces them in the areas that they're needed ?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Migrants again!
Can they afford to rent the house they live in out of the low wages that nobody else will work for, or is that paid for them?

At least they'd be making the effort to work.

I think most (rational) people would prefer to subsidise migrants who work and contribute to the UK society as a whole over their workshy counterparts - unless of course a misguided and ill informed racism / xenophobia is more important to them than fundamental economics.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

We haven't been an island since construction of the channel tunnel was complete.....

Insular people in their insular worlds. shame really ?

I remember the BBC news opening on the day the channel tunnel opened:

Originally Posted by BBC News

It's a great day for Europe. It's no longer isolated from Great Britain

It was hilarious, but very sad at the same time.

[deadite66]

I think this is the death of the benefits system, a government can't stop EU migrants coming in but they can make it less attractive by ruining it for everyone and seriously cutting the amount of benefit people can claim.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So erm, remove the migration element and who exactly replaces them in the areas that they're needed ?

Students and bored/retired people can do the fruit, veg and low paid jobs. and how many years do we keep needing foreigners to come over and doctor us? is nobody interested in becoming a doctor when they leave school anymore?

[deadite66]

When the pro-immigration people bring up that the NHS would collapse without immigration i always think "that's not good, it's a shameful admission"

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Students and bored/retired people can do the fruit, veg and low paid jobs. and how many years do we keep needing foreigners to come over and doctor us? is nobody interested in becoming a doctor when they leave school anymore?

And how exactly do you force these people to do these jobs ?

And as to the bolded part, It's fairly obvious that this may be a reason otherwise we wouldn't be needing migrants to fill those roles

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

At least they'd be making the effort to work.

I think most (rational) people would prefer to subsidise migrants who work and contribute to the UK society as a whole over their workshy counterparts - unless of course a misguided and ill informed racism / xenophobia is more important to them than fundamental economics.

Depends how far you want to go with the subsidises. free house, free council tax, free health care and treatment, etc..
that's for the ones who work.

then you have to subsidise the ones that haven't come over to work.
free house, free council tax, free health care and treatment, free benefit money, etc..

the disadvantages can far outweigh the advantages. and bringing racism into money matters is silly.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Depends how far you want to go with the subsidises. free house, free council tax, free health care and treatment, etc..
that's for the ones who work.

then you have to subsidise the ones that haven't come over to work.
free house, free council tax, free health care and treatment, free benefit money, etc..

the disadvantages can far outweigh the advantages. and bringing racism into money matters is silly.

Source to back up all that you've just posted above or I'm calling it just another rant by a xenophobe