Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

WOW, this thread has become completely useless, I'm sick and tired of "Sky did this", "Sky does this". If you want Sky go get it, if you hate Sky then make a "I hate Sky" thread, if you hate VM then why do you read cable forum?

This is the coming soon to Virgin Media thread.

To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them

Originally Posted by muppetman11

To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them

Must admit muppetman11 vm are never goingt to beat sky for linear HD full stop, i think vm are looking at streamng as their new key service via TiVo if they can tie up a deal with say amazon owned lovefilm then many things vm customers cannot now get will be available to them.

Talking of coming soon the only big thing on my wish list was sky sports Red Button as new content lies behind it previously denied to us sky sports subs via vm ! and it is coming very soon.and i shall be one very happy vm sub.

[Mobes]

I too agree but I can't stand constant moaning and people who won't give credit for the sake of it.

[carlwaring]

Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?

Or does everyone on here already know that?

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?

Or does everyone on here already know that?

Yes i have some idea of how the two systems work in very different ways to provide their content,it certainly would be very expensive for vm to carry the channels another operator has especially since vm include the cost in the XL package of all but sky premium HD.

I have not really moaned about channels in general much,but the stuff i consider should be part of a sub i already pay ie a hefty £22.50 a month for sky sports and in the past being deined access to content via their red button. now on the way.

In general though i am very happy with my vm tv services and have no complaints as such.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Must admit muppetman11 vm are never goingt to beat sky for linear HD full stop, i think vm are looking at streamng as their new key service via TiVo if they can tie up a deal with say amazon owned lovefilm then many things vm customers cannot now get will be available to them.

Talking of coming soon the only big thing on my wish list was sky sports Red Button as new content lies behind it previously denied to us sky sports subs via vm ! and it is coming very soon.and i shall be one very happy vm sub.

Agree fully mate , and the Sports red button will be a great addition.

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Originally Posted by Mobes

I too agree but I can't stand constant moaning and people who won't give credit for the sake of it.

I have credited VM on numerous occasions there TV lineup is not bad at all for £24.50.

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?

Or does everyone on here already know that?

Defo correct , VM and the Satellite company have very different offerings , VM is HD free on XL and that Sat company charge 10.25 for a broader channel range , whichever suits the individuals need. VM are never going to offer the HD channel range that sat company do under their pricing structure people need to know that and accept it , many don't want all them channels and that's why VM is a great deal for them.

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[Mobes]

[QUOTE=muppetman11;35216542]I have credited VM on numerous occasions there TV lineup is not bad at all for £24.50.[QUOTE]

it wasn't aimed at you

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them

I agree people blame Sky, that's the problem! VM are in the business of getting the best price for there customers just like Sky, Sky sell VM buy. If we don't get "channel A" then that's because the deal isn't sweet enough, I dont expect (or want) VM to pay over the odds just like I don't expect Sky to sell for less than it's value.

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them

I agree. Also further to your point, I just don't get why people think VM should follow Sky's structure and delivery. VM obviously don't want to follow Sky's separate sub for HD pricing structure so obviously VM do not intend on delivering a comprehensive HD selection.

[Mobes]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

I agree people blame Sky, that's the problem! VM are in the business of getting the best price for there customers just like Sky, Sky sell VM buy. If we don't get "channel A" then that's because the deal isn't sweet enough, I dont expect (or want) VM to pay over the odds just like I don't expect Sky to sell for less than it's value.

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

Excellent post. VM arent letting their UKTV stake go on the cheap if the papers are to be believed , and let's be honest their shareholders wouldn't expect anything less. All negotiations come down to making the numbers work.

[dazed&confused]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

I agree people blame Sky, that's the problem! VM are in the business of getting the best price for there customers just like Sky, Sky sell VM buy. If we don't get "channel A" then that's because the deal isn't sweet enough, I dont expect (or want) VM to pay over the odds just like I don't expect Sky to sell for less than it's value.

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

You are talking a lot of sense today

But why aren't you playing with your TIVo

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by dazed&confused

You are talking a lot of sense today

But why aren't you playing with your TIVo

Its fallen off with him playing with it too much

[dazed&confused]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Its fallen off with him playing with it too much

Mind you - looking at his Avatar, it's probably not the only thing that's fallen off