Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
16-02-2011, 22:03
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
Some works going on up the road from me today, at the exchange cab I think (bigger with cooling fans). Not Virgin, but contractors for them. Didnt get close enough to see exactly, but the cabs were completely open and the pits were open too.
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17-02-2011, 14:05
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#362
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
I had a bt openreach guy over a few days ago to re-connect my telephone line back to BT. He asked why I didnt take BT broadband? I informed him due to the long line length...he then went on to say BT Infinity is currently being planned(12-18 Months) for Montfort. Perhaps Just a Lie?
Would I be correct in saying even if Infinity is rollled out if your cab is not enabled you wont get it?
Also did anyone here email our ex-MP to get ADSL in our area improved? I remember reading this somewhere...Just wanted to know if some of the copper had been replaced. The BT estimator is now showing me a speed up to 5mb...
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17-02-2011, 18:58
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#363
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
Yeah I emailed her. I got a reply of her assistant after the general election stuff started, stating BT said they upgrading copper cables to improve speeds. However that was due to be done by last oct so clearly got fed a load of rubbish. In the same letter it stated the area wont be getting FTTC due to confidental commercial reasons. She is on BT's board and it would have been a nice goodbye present from her, but I guess she wasnt bothered enough to push the issue hard. Prior to that she was a good local MP I thought, helped me with other issues effectively, this one in theory should have been easy for her given her position. Our new MP seems useless and doesnt even reply to anything.
However I am not sure if I would jump to infinity now, data I have seen shows people have packet loss issues, high pings due to interleaving (DLM) and even still getting line dropouts. So adsl issues still seem to plague VDSL, the difference been that simply VDSL is much faster. Of course also any service on VDSL at the moment is using BT wholesale which means very high contention as isp's will only budget for less than 100kbit per user on usage, VM do budget higher then that.
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17-02-2011, 19:13
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#364
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
Not all VDSL is on BT wholesale. (as I understand from Andrews and Arnold)?
They are the only ISP I would go back to ADSL/VDSL with.
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17-02-2011, 19:26
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
aaisp use BT wholesale for VDSL. They get round the budgeting issue by charging a premium for a small usage cap. But even doing that they still suffer from BTw congestion issues from time to time and have had to resort to public blog posts to get BT to fix.
The isp's to look out for to avoid BT wholesale is probably either sky or O2 launching the service as they have large LLU networks, maybe even talktalk. If they use their own exchange backhaul for the service then can expect a higher usage budget per end user. For central leics I would say the only realistic one is sky, as O2 not LLU'd both exchanges and I think talktalk will budget much less per user than sky.
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17-02-2011, 19:48
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#366
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
Ok thanks for the info. Hopefully by the time BT decide to give us FTTC (if ever!) these issues will be resolved.
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17-02-2011, 20:16
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
I know why my jitter has doubled, I am back on channel 8, so I have been silently moved back without a disconnection, interesting. For whatever reason it seems VM dont want me on the channel with lower utilisation.
UCD invalid or channel unusable
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17-02-2011, 23:12
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#368
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Yeah I emailed her. I got a reply of her assistant after the general election stuff started, stating BT said they upgrading copper cables to improve speeds. However that was due to be done by last oct so clearly got fed a load of rubbish. In the same letter it stated the area wont be getting FTTC due to confidental commercial reasons. She is on BT's board and it would have been a nice goodbye present from her, but I guess she wasnt bothered enough to push the issue hard. Prior to that she was a good local MP I thought, helped me with other issues effectively, this one in theory should have been easy for her given her position. Our new MP seems useless and doesnt even reply to anything.
However I am not sure if I would jump to infinity now, data I have seen shows people have packet loss issues, high pings due to interleaving (DLM) and even still getting line dropouts. So adsl issues still seem to plague VDSL, the difference been that simply VDSL is much faster. Of course also any service on VDSL at the moment is using BT wholesale which means very high contention as isp's will only budget for less than 100kbit per user on usage, VM do budget higher then that.
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Its bad that her webpage is still active proclaiming her as the Leicester West MP!!!
I did try to email the current incumbent, but as you say she hasn't even had the decency of replying.
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18-02-2011, 01:56
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#369
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
well back on 7 now.
Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked TDMA 7 10240 Kbits/sec 44000000 Hz 43.9 dBmV
interesting it seems if I do this just after midnight it connects to 7, and followed the same pattern both times. It connects to 8 with one downstream channel, then drops and comes back on 7. Will check tommorow if I get pushed back to 8 again.
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18-02-2011, 17:25
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
want to trade and live in London Boriugh of Brent?
4mb and slower. No fix until May maybe?
Still they have refunded a wad of ££££££.
Still going back to BT in March when the 40mb cable to box arrives.
cheaper and faster than virgin
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18-02-2011, 20:19
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
channel 7 is higher load than before, so I guess its a bit more balanced with 8 now, although still lighter than 8.
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19-02-2011, 22:41
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
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Originally Posted by desi112
Would I be correct in saying even if Infinity is rollled out if your cab is not enabled you wont get it?
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Yes you are correct, there is no guarantee that the local cab will be enabled.
Take a look at the ADSL guide forums, loads of disgruntled people.
At least we are universally ignored by BT!
Id love to know how many connections they have lost in the last 12 months to Virgin.
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22-03-2011, 20:06
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
I think another reseg has been done, and its possibly the same as what happened last nov.
Looks like user's moved from phil's port to mine, as his graph (which I been following) looks improved whilst mine looks worse.
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22-03-2011, 20:52
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#374
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
Im now on 30Mb, as you say things are getting worse again.
Not sure if Im on your port or desi112's?
cpc5-leic15
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22-03-2011, 21:58
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#375
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Re: Terrible performance Leicester (LE3)
your today graph is better than yesterday tho. yesterday yours got very bad and I noticed it at weekends also.
mine is starting to look like what yours was like a few weeks back.
Is this a reccuring pattern on VM? 1-2 months good service followed by 10 months of waiting for next upgrade.
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