'Gay cure' Apple iPhone app: more than 80,000 complain - Page 2

**Damien** · 21-03-2011, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Chris

Maybe, maybe not. The point is, people should be free to try if they wish, and others should be free to offer to help them try.

People are free to do as they wish. Doesn't mean we have to approve of it though. I worry about the mental state of someone who wants to 'change' their sexuality, I worry about their motivations for doing so and if the change is real or simply causing people to surpress their preferences and the damage that could do.

I am straight but it seems to me that what your attracted too is biological. It's certainly not something you control.

Better put: I worry about the claims people make that it can be cured. I think it implies it is something that can be cured, without much scientific basis, and perpetuates the idea something is wrong.

**Chris** · 21-03-2011, 20:51

But you don't have to approve of it for the app to exist on the app store. Stonewall doesn't have to approve of it. They just have to accept that there are people out there who view things differently. It's called tolerance - something Stonewall is supposed to believe in.

**Damien** · 21-03-2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Chris

But you don't have to approve of it for the app to exist on the app store. Stonewall doesn't have to approve of it. They just have to accept that there are people out there who view things differently. It's called tolerance - something Stonewall is supposed to believe in.

I don't care too much about the app. The problem is that Apple have a policy of screening applications and this time it's come back to bite them. They have rejected quite a few applications that might be deemed controversial and they have left themselves open to being asked why they let this one though. I think it was a mistake, and the app will be pulled.

**Chris** · 21-03-2011, 20:55

Well, that's the peril of pre-moderating content ... It makes you a hostage to fortune because it effectively makes you co-owner of everything you allow to be published.

budwieser · 21-03-2011, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Damien

I don't care too much about the app. The problem is that Apple have a policy of screening applications and this time it's come back to bite them. They have rejected quite a few applications that might be deemed controversial and they have left themselves open to being asked why they let this one though. I think it was a mistake, and the app will be pulled.

I liked the Boob app.

Welshchris · 21-03-2011, 22:00

Being Gay myself i remember how hard it was for me to come to terms with my sexuality, also having a gay brother it was harder for me for a number of reasons
1. I have always wanted kids.
2. I thought i was letting my family down by not having kids.
3. When my brother came out my mother was less than accepting at first.

Some people think that its a choice and u somehow decide one day in the same way u chose what car u want or what clothes to buy, u dont decide in the same way people dont suddenly decide they are str8.

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Originally Posted by Damien

I would have to say that I would be surprised if people were unsure of their sexuality at 16. I think it's naive to think that someones sexual preferences can be changed and the idea that homosexuality can be 'cured'.

i know of people who are unsure of their sexuality well into late teens and early 20s. It certainly does happen especially in bisexuals.

Gary L · 22-03-2011, 08:53

there's another one coming out called "how to stop suffering and dying, and causing misery to your family" that's through the power of Jesus too.

Be interesting to know whether the person who started the petition is actually gay themselves.

I think it could be the case that because Jesus is involved then it's seen as a sin to be gay. and there is a cure for it.

Kymmy · 22-03-2011, 09:03

I have just this to say..

The app should be removed purely as it suggests that there is a cure for a predisposition.

Freedom of choice yes but in this case there isn't a choice as to if you are GLB or not. The only choice is are either a GLB who abstains from a relationship or one that embraces a relationship and as such the app is misleading and preys on misunderstanding and Apple should remove it based on that.

What next an app to cure yourself of being British??

Gary L · 22-03-2011, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

What next an app to cure yourself of being British??

Would that mean having to leave the country when you're cured?

Kymmy · 22-03-2011, 09:11

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Would that mean having to leave the country when you're cured?

Oh dear, showing your true colors now..

Gary L · 22-03-2011, 09:14

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Oh dear, showing your true colors now..

Behave. you're the one who invented the app.
what's the result of being cured of being British if you're British?

**Chris** · 22-03-2011, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

I have just this to say..

The app should be removed purely as it suggests that there is a cure for a predisposition.

Freedom of choice yes but in this case there isn't a choice as to if you are GLB or not. The only choice is are either a GLB who abstains from a relationship or one that embraces a relationship and as such the app is misleading and preys on misunderstanding and Apple should remove it based on that.

What next an app to cure yourself of being British??

It might be wrong, but who are Stonewall to tell people they're not allowed to be wrong? If people want to live in glorious ignorance, that's their choice, surely?

Kymmy · 22-03-2011, 09:58

Stonewall have been too far up their own "you know where" since they had a their part in the riots of the late '60s. Anyone would think that they were the only group fighting the 'cause'.

Yes Chris you are right in that everyone has a choice to live in ignorance or not but there are rules as to what is promised with items sold and their effectiveness in these claims.

All this will do is make a lot more people unhappy in their lives

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Behave. you're the one who invented the app.

Oh Gary, is that the best you can come up with.. Do you want me to give you your money back on your purchase???

Gary L · 22-03-2011, 10:15

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Oh Gary, is that the best you can come up with..

No.

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Do you want me to give you your money back on your purchase???

You haven't released it yet for me to purchase it

Kymmy · 22-03-2011, 10:18

Oh, sorry to tell you then but the bribe you gave me to beta test the pre-release is non-refundable..

Now pushing jokers aside..

I don't think it'll be long before Apple withdraw this app..