TiVo : £3.00 Tivo Charge

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

So in essence it is a 1TB box?

Yes but the recording times are 240hrs of HD more than double TIVO , and 500gb for Anytime/Anytime+

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Yes but the recording times are 240hrs of HD more than double TIVO , and 500gb for Anytime/Anytime+

No the recording times on the TIVO box that I have got says 121HRS hd and also for SKYS so called on demand/anytime ( what ever you want to call it ) you do need extra HDD, You do not need this with VM as it is separate?

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Yes but the recording times are 240hrs of HD more than double TIVO , and 500gb for Anytime/Anytime+

I just cannot possibly imagine the average punter ever needing that sort of capacity be it with a Sky box, VM box or any sort of box. Even less so with Tivo because of catch up, on demand and it's online streaming capabilities.

I think VM are spot on to say they will provide lower capacity HDD's as 1TB just seems like overkill to me given all the online and OD content it will or potentially can provide.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

No the recording times on the TIVO box that I have got says 121HRS hd and also for SKYS so called on demand/anytime ( what ever you want to call it ) you do need extra HDD, You do not need this with VM as it is separate?

No mate the 1TB personal use records 240 hrs of HD

http://www.sky.com/shop/boxes/1TB

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Originally Posted by mersey70

I just cannot possibly imagine the average punter ever needing that sort of capacity be it with a Sky box, VM box or any sort of box. Even less so with Tivo because of catch up, on demand and it's online streaming capabilities.

I think VM are spot on to say they will provide lower capacity HDD's as 1TB just seems like overkill to me given all the online and OD content it will provide.

Fully agree mate my Sky+HD box records 60 hrs HD more than enough for me.

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Originally Posted by mersey70

I just cannot possibly imagine the average punter ever needing that sort of capacity be it with a Sky box, VM box or any sort of box. Even less so with Tivo because of catch up, on demand and it's online streaming capabilities.

I think VM are spot on to say they will provide lower capacity HDD's as 1TB just seems like overkill to me given all the online and OD content it will provide.

Fully agree mate my Sky+HD box records 60 hrs HD more than enough for me, and there's no 3.00 charge LOL

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by mersey70

I just cannot possibly imagine the average punter ever needing that sort of capacity be it with a Sky box, VM box or any sort of box. Even less so with Tivo because of catch up, on demand and it's online streaming capabilities.

I think VM are spot on to say they will provide lower capacity HDD's as 1TB just seems like overkill to me given all the online and OD content it will provide.

Well said, i have to admit that i have got HD recording and also about 20+ movies for the kids in SD and i have barley scratched the surface of the HDD.

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Well said, i have to admit that i have got HD recording and also about 20+ movies for the kids in SD and i have barley scratched the surface of the HDD.

You don't want to be doing that - it'll make the read/write heads jump......

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You don't want to be doing that - it'll make the read/write heads jump......

good one Hugh.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

A new customer to VM taking TIVO and XL would pay

Box 199
Install 40.00
TIVO sub 36.00
XL 294.00
Totalling 569 for yr1

Sky+HD
Box and install free
6mix 24.50 x 12 = 294
HD Pack 123
Totalling 417.00 a year.

From the sky price calculator:

Sky TV

Sky TV £24.50
Monthly
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Sky boxes

Sky boxes [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Sky+HD 1TB box £249 One-off
HD Pack £10.25 Monthly
Standard set-up FREE

Sky Broadband & Talk

Add Broadband & Talk

Total monthly cost£34.75Total one-off cost£249

that's 417 for 12 months HD TV + 249 for the box = 666.

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by passingbat

From the sky price calculator:






that's 417 for 12 months HD TV + 249 for the box = 666.

I always thought they were the number of the beast

[muppetman11]

Don't forget though you don't have to have HD with sky the box can be used as a sky+ saving you the 10.25 a month.

[mersey70]

Whatever happened to the idea a PVR was merely for timeshifting? I couldn't envisage ever needing 500gb of space let alone 1TB, in fact I don't ever recall my V+ ever being anywhere near full, we just watched and deleted virtually everything. Even more so with VM as catch up negates the need to record loads of stuff.

I just think providing 1TB capacity increases to the expense of Tivo, that coupled to the ongoing sub may well make joe bloggs run a mile.

Bring that lower capacity box out asap, can the monthly charge and they have the making of a great offer. Otherwise I see it going the same way as the other incarnations of Tivo. Merely a niche, techie gadget with a very limited customer base.

Until it becomes the de facto platform anyway.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by mersey70

Whatever happened to the idea a PVR was merely for timeshifting? I couldn't envisage ever needing 500gb of space let alone 1TB, in fact I don't ever recall my V+ ever being anywhere near full, we just watched and deleted virtually everything. Even more so with VM as catch up negates the need to record loads of stuff.

I just think providing 1TB capacity increases to the expense of Tivo, that coupled to the ongoing sub may well make joe bloggs run a mile.

Bring that lower capacity box out asap, can the monthly charge and they have the making of a great offer. Otherwise I see it going the same way as the other incarnations of Tivo. Merely a niche, techie gadget with a very limited customer base.

Until it becomes the de facto platform anyway.

Excellent point a 500gb TIVO with no 3.00 charge and they have a winner.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Don't forget though you don't have to have HD with sky the box can be used as a sky+ saving you the 10.25 a month.

But you were comparing sky with tivo that has TV XL and so comes with HD (at no extra cost).

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by passingbat

But you were comparing sky with tivo that has TV XL and so comes with HD (at no extra cost).

I was comparing to sky+hd as the majority do not need 1tb when on mpeg4 however I agree VM will bring a smaller TIVO out which will compete.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by mersey70

Whatever happened to the idea a PVR was merely for timeshifting? I couldn't envisage ever needing 500gb of space let alone 1TB, in fact I don't ever recall my V+ ever being anywhere near full, we just watched and deleted virtually everything. Even more so with VM as catch up negates the need to record loads of stuff.

I just think providing 1TB capacity increases to the expense of Tivo, that coupled to the ongoing sub may well make joe bloggs run a mile.

Bring that lower capacity box out asap, can the monthly charge and they have the making of a great offer. Otherwise I see it going the same way as the other incarnations of Tivo. Merely a niche, techie gadget with a very limited customer base.

Until it becomes the de facto platform anyway.

I don't want anything less than a 1TB box. I rarely use catchup and would like the freedom to watch things maybe a few weeks later and not worry about running out of disc space.

We all operate differently.