Raoul Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
15-03-2011, 16:24
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Raoul Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
A minimum of 40yrs before being considered for parole .The judge went to town on him ,good for him 
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A man convicted of helping gunman Raoul Moat during his murderous rampage has been jailed for a minimum of 40 years.
Karl Ness was convicted of a string of offences after a five-week hearing at Newcastle Crown Court.
Fellow conspirator Qhuram Awan was sentenced to life with a minimum of 20 years.
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...d_For_40_Years
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15-03-2011, 16:29
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
Murderers get less.
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15-03-2011, 16:31
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
Mass murderers don't. And in english law, being an accessory to murder is treated as seriously as being the actual murderer. Had Moat survived, his sentence would have been similar, if not longer.
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15-03-2011, 16:32
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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Murderers get less.
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Yes they do ,and i would like to see this sentence as a bench mark for other trials ,murderers 50+ yrs ,accomplices 40+ yrs
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15-03-2011, 16:38
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
Ho ho ho. 
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15-03-2011, 17:19
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
Have to agree with you Derek. 
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15-03-2011, 17:20
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
It could not have happened to a nicer pair of villains.
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16-03-2011, 02:33
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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It could not have happened to a nicer pair of villains. |
Agreed, also the fact this odious pair didn't hold their hands up and admit their guilt, or show an ounce of remorse at their trial just reinforces the judge got this right.
I don't know what the outcome would have been had the pair of them "came clean" admitted their guilt and threw themselves at the mercy of the court....either way they must have realized they were going down for a very long time indeed.
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16-03-2011, 08:26
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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And lets make sure they serve the time they have been given and while we are at it refuse both of them the right to appeal.
These 2 don't deserve to see the outside of a prison wall ever again.
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16-03-2011, 09:39
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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And lets make sure they serve the time they have been given and while we are at it refuse both of them the right to appeal.
These 2 don't deserve to see the outside of a prison wall ever again.
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You can bet there are lawyers lining up already to challenge that ruling and get them out early.
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16-03-2011, 10:02
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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And lets make sure they serve the time they have been given and while we are at it refuse both of them the right to appeal.
These 2 don't deserve to see the outside of a prison wall ever again.
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They have a life sentence with a minimum term to be spent inside. At 30/40 years minimum, it's quite likely they won't ever get out.
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16-03-2011, 11:21
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
Murderers, rapists, paedophiles, and terrorists get less.
I *get* that the courts wish to create a deterrent in order to help protect the police, but since when was the life of a police officer deemed greater than that of a member of the public ?
I know of cases where people have been brutally murdered at random, and the perpetrator (never mind any accomplice) received far far less of a sentence. I'm sure most if not all of us could cite similar cases.
If Moat and his two buddies had shot your child in the face and were later apprehended, the three of them would be out in 5 years.
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16-03-2011, 11:39
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
The sentences weren't just for shooting the police officer in the face - from the OP link
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Ness, 26, was given three concurrent life sentences for murder, conspiracy to murder and attempted murder.
His friend Qhurum Awan got two concurrent life sentences for conspiracy to murder and attempted murder and will serve at least 20 years in jail
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16-03-2011, 12:12
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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The sentences weren't just for shooting the police officer in the face - from the OP link
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Given your point of view, I suppose it could've been worse then.
As they could've been sentenced for:
conspiring to shoot a police officer,
conspiring to conspire to attempt to shoot a police officer,
conspiring to conspire to shooting a police officer,
conspiring to aiding an abetting a convict with the intention of shooting a police officer,
conspiring to conspire to aiding and abetting a convict with the intention of shooting a police officer,
and finally - shooting a police officer.
Oh please...
The same could be applied to any other crime.
Such as the random murder example I gave earlier.
Conspring to murder, attempted murder, etc etc
The fact remains that courts are routinely dishing out far lesser sentences for far more serious crimes. I'd wager that if PC David Rathband had been a pedestrian rather than a police officer, the trio would out in 5 yrs or less.
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16-03-2011, 12:21
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Re: Raol Moat accomplice jailed for 40 yrs
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I'd wager that if PC David Rathband had been a pedestrian rather than a police officer, the trio would out in 5 yrs or less.
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Who is the third person. 
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