When is a traveller not a Traveller?

Hom3r · 10-03-2011, 19:46

http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/ne...s_pm_1_2483614

Well when you build a house illegally then you are not a traveller.

These so called travellers are claiming "Human Rights" BS.

Sorry but they have no case and should travel somewhere else.

**Maggy** · 10-03-2011, 20:04

There are just not enough sites for all the Travellers to use mainly because no one wants a traveller site near them.

I'm also wondering if they all decided to jack in the life and buy a house down your street and pay their dues and taxes tomorrow, how people might feel about them then...Got a feeling they still wouldn't be welcome.

10-03-2011, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

There are just not enough sites for all the Travellers to use mainly because no one wants a traveller site near them.

can you blame them ,whenever travellers are in the area crime rates go through the roof

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I'm also wondering if they all decided to jack in the life and buy a house down your street and pay their dues and taxes tomorrow, how people might feel about them then...Got a feeling they still wouldn't be welcome.

depends if they gave up on the "old ways" as well ,i actually know a family of travellers very well who did exactly that except it was a council house they got ,they are still thieving gits ,and didn't pay there dues for very long either

Also are we talking about Gypsies or travellers ? i see them as different

Dai · 10-03-2011, 21:29

If they are 'travellers' then they should travel with short stopovers here and there as they have always done.

If they stop travelling and want a permanent home then the same planning and social restrictions should apply, same as the rest of us.

**Maggy** · 10-03-2011, 22:55

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can you blame them ,whenever travellers are in the area crime rates go through the roof

depends if they gave up on the "old ways" as well ,i actually know a family of travellers very well who did exactly that except it was a council house they got ,they are still thieving gits ,and didn't pay there dues for very long either

Also are we talking about Gypsies or travellers ? i see them as different

I think the hippy,dippy travellers are a different and almost gone group.The present travellers tend to be Irish but they were at one time called Romanies and in other parts of Europe they still are.

Hom3r · 10-03-2011, 23:14

My point was how can a traveller live in a house (Bricks & mortar) rather than a caravan?

Pierre · 10-03-2011, 23:41

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can you blame them ,whenever travellers are in the area crime rates go through the roof

I think most of the roofs disappear - the lead ones.

Plenty of new driveways though.

Hom3r · 10-03-2011, 23:52

Can we please try and keep this thread on topic, I'm sure that there are light fingeed travellers, but then I guess there more honest one, and the few give the rest a bad name.

**Maggy** · 11-03-2011, 01:55

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My point was how can a traveller live in a house (Bricks & mortar) rather than a caravan?

They are no more averse to living in a house than anyone else..They still keep their caravans alongside their houses against the day they get forced to move.

Flyboy · 11-03-2011, 12:18

The site mentioned in the OP's link was a former scrap yard. It is in the middle of nowhere and contrary to popular belief, has not expanded in size. It still encompasses the same footprint it did before the travellers moved in.

nomadking · 11-03-2011, 12:37

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The site mentioned in the OP's link was a former scrap yard. It is in the middle of nowhere and contrary to popular belief, has not expanded in size. It still encompasses the same footprint it did before the travellers moved in.

Of course the area covered is the same. It didn't magically expand in size. Did the same number of people live there before with all the same demands of power, water, sewage, rubbish etc?

Flyboy · 11-03-2011, 16:04

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Of course the area covered is the same. It didn't magically expand in size. Did the same number of people live there before with all the same demands of power, water, sewage, rubbish etc?

You really don't think the water company put in sewerage and the power companies lay down cables or that Essex County Council have been doing their fortnightly refuse collection and recycling. I suppose Virgin went in and offered to sign them all to cable and broadband.

nomadking · 11-03-2011, 16:07

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You really don't think the water company put in sewerage and the power companies lay down cables or that Essex County Council have been doing their fortnightly refuse collection and recycling. I suppose Virgin went in and offered to sign them all to cable and broadband.

Are you saying that they are doing without those services?

Tezcatlipoca · 11-03-2011, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I think the hippy,dippy travellers are a different and almost gone group.The present travellers tend to be Irish but they were at one time called Romanies and in other parts of Europe they still are.

Irish Travellers and Romani Gypsies aren't the same thing, and tend to have quite a different image.

Flyboy · 13-03-2011, 19:20

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Are you saying that they are doing without those services?

I have no idea, but I doubt very much that the water, electricity, gas and telephone companies were banging on their doors, do you?