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[mersey70]

Originally Posted by Big-Ted

I think you were out stirring the cauldron with the rest of your coven

I was contributing to a discussion on trying to establish if there was any pattern to those who have been called.

As opposed to making silly ill informed posts like yours.

Feel free to add my user id to your ignore list though.

[Big-Ted]

Originally Posted by mersey70

I was contributing to a discussion on trying to establish if there was any pattern to those who have been called.

As opposed to making silly ill informed posts like yours.

Feel free to add my user id to your ignore list though.

Sorry you didn't recognize a bit of humor.


If you feel I was getting you I apologize.


It was only a joke after all and I have agreed with most of your posts so I will not put you on ignore list and hope you haven't me and so miss this post.

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by Big-Ted

Sorry you didn't recognize a bit of humor.


If you feel I was getting you I apologize.


It was only a joke after all and I have agreed with most of your posts so I will not put you on ignore list and hope you haven't me and so miss this post.

Clearly I missed your humour so let me apologise, if you added an animation to indicate a joke (which it looks like you possibly did from the emoticon web address) for some reason I cannot see them, only smileys.

Ta

[devilincarnate]

Group hug?

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Group hug?

I wouldn't go that far

[ntl.wotcha]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Because of the way tivo handles padding when two shows are recorded back to on different channels, on the same tuner, I don't want a default few minutes of padding automatically added to a recording. If tivo handled padding like the V+ box, that would be fine but it doesen't.

OK but remember you've got 3 recordable tuners so it's not going to happen very often, plus the higher priority series link *will* clip the padding off a lower priority series link, so it's not a massive problem. Although not ideal I would rather that, than have to manually add padding each and every time I set a recording from the web/mobile, or from the guide where it doesn't even prompt you to set it.

Originally Posted by passingbat

They really should make tivo handle it like the V+, but I doubt they will (hope I'm wrong). In the absence of that, any global padding should be optional, with user selectable times.

Sounds like that could be more extensive code change, so let's see what turns up in September

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Originally Posted by Andy C

I don't want forced padding thanks, especially 5 minutes. It takes 10 seconds or less to set options for a series link (and i'm tetraplegic with very limited finger movement), where's the hassle? Let see 3 minute end and 2 min start padding, select show, go to get series link... press right, right, down 4 times, right 2 times, down, right 3 times, OK, OK... done.

User configurable padding yes maybe, forced padding no ta.

I could easily turn that around and say you could quite easily go into your recordings and remove the padding. The reality is that schedules do quite often overrun, so personally I'd rather it added a couple of minutes than none at all.

Yes in an ideal world we could set our own preference, but VM are saying that's over 6 months away.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

OK but remember you've got 3 recordable tuners so it's not going to happen very often, plus the higher priority series link *will* clip the padding off a lower priority series link, so it's not a massive problem. Although not ideal I would rather that, than have to manually add padding each and every time I set a recording from the web/mobile, or from the guide where it doesn't even prompt you to set it.




Sounds like that could be more extensive code change, so let's see what turns up in September

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I could easily turn that around and say you could quite easily go into your recordings and remove the padding. The reality is that schedules do quite often overrun, so personally I'd rather it added a couple of minutes than none at all.

Yes in an ideal world we could set our own preference, but VM are saying that's over 6 months away.

How are you not getting the option to set from the TV Guide?

TV Guide > Genre > highlight programme > Press "ok" > select "Series links & other options"

Do you not see this option?

[Perfect Choice]

Can I just clarify this padding issue on one point since most of the posts seem to be about what happens to padding when you are recording 2 programmes back to back.

Is the case with Tivo as follows:

1. You can set start before and continue after padding on an individual recording or series setting, on V+ you had pre defined options of something like 2, 5 or 10 minutes but on Tivo can you set your own padding time?
2. This has to be done on every recording as there is no global setting which seems to be the approach now to be implemented with the target September patch update.

The above just covers a recording you want to make without the complication of back to back or clashing recordings. Just want to understand the basic set up first before getting into priorities/clashes/back to back recording issues.

[ntl.wotcha]

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Is the case with Tivo as follows:

1. You can set start before and continue after padding on an individual recording or series setting, on V+ you had pre defined options of something like 2, 5 or 10 minutes but on Tivo can you set your own padding time?
2. This has to be done on every recording as there is no global setting which seems to be the approach now to be implemented with the target September patch update.

Correct. You have to define your own padding on each recording or series link. Presumably suggestion recordings don't get any padding.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

Correct. You have to define your own padding on each recording or series link. Presumably suggestion recordings don't get any padding.

Suggestions seem to get 10 mins added to the end from what I've seen

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

OK but remember you've got 3 recordable tuners so it's not going to happen very often, plus the higher priority series link *will* clip the padding off a lower priority series link, so it's not a massive problem. Although not ideal I would rather that, than have to manually add padding each and every time I set a recording from the web/mobile, or from the guide where it doesn't even prompt you to set it.
.

I agree the third tuner will reduce the number of times it happens, but I only record thngs I want to watch, usually brand new episodes of a series, so I don't set priority recording; they are all equal priority to me.

Since this issue has come to light, I've been keeping an eye on programmes that V+ has had to remove padding from, and all have recoded with nothing missing. I'll keep monitoring, but ATM, I'm thinking of not adding any padding to recordings on TIVO (when I get it) as I think no padding would probably cause less problems. So, I don't want forced padding imposed on TIVO.

[ntl.wotcha]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

How are you not getting the option to set from the TV Guide?

From the TV guide if I want to do a one off recording, I highlight the show I want to record and then press the record button. I then select "record this showing" and it then sets the recording and returns to the Guide.

If I want to set padding on this recording I have to then go into the planned recordings and edit it from there.

Similarly if I set a series link or recording from the web, there's no way to set padding there either. You have to go into the Tivo and add it through the various menus.

Hence why I keep banging on about changing the default to just add a couple of minutes.

With series links it's less of an issue because once you set the link you then get the menu option to edit the series link properties.

I personally see padding as quite important, particularly with BBC content which can quite often over run. With comercial channels it's less of an issue because there's usually a few mins of adds padding out the hour.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

From the TV guide if I want to do a one off recording, I highlight the show I want to record and then press the record button. I then select "record this showing" and it then sets the recording and returns to the Guide.

If I want to set padding on this recording I have to then go into the planned recordings and edit it from there.

Similarly if I set a series link or recording from the web, there's no way to set padding there either. You have to go into the Tivo and add it through the various menus.

Hence why I keep banging on about changing the default to just add a couple of minutes.

With series links it's less of an issue because once you set the link you then get the menu option to edit the series link properties.

I personally see padding as quite important, particularly with BBC content which can quite often over run. With comercial channels it's less of an issue because there's usually a few mins of adds padding out the hour.

You are doing it wrong then Press OK instead of record in the TV Guide.

the online TV Guide is in constant development.

[oliver1948uk]

I am a person who likes to press a button and it works, not mess around with settings all the time. I have not changed any defaults on my SA V+, yet it is very rare indeed for recordings not to cover the whole programme, even when back to back.

Nearly everything I read about this Tivo puts me off. If it had a dynamic programme guide (it is utterly unbelievable to me that it does not) then all this stuff about padding would not matter.

Did I read that you cannot press INFO and instantly find out about a programme as on V+ (though admittedly you often have to do it twice to get the information)? I find this unbelievable too.

Why not start with all the V+ does then add the Tivo business of thumbs up and down for those who find that sort of thing appealing.

I hope VM continue to develop the V+ with a larger hard drive as I am beginning to believe that, for the ordinary customer, they are on a loser with this Tivo which seems old fashioned in so many respects.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

Did I read that you cannot press INFO and instantly find out about a programme as on V+ (though admittedly you often have to do it twice to get the information)? I find this unbelievable too.

You can press info to find information on TiVo