08-03-2011, 10:44
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#3841
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Doug P
I gather there are only two tuners?
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The third will be activated this month, and, what's a massive plus over the V+, is that all 3 will record and buffer programmes.
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08-03-2011, 10:48
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#3842
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by passingbat
is that all 3 will record and buffer programmes.
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Under certain circumstances (in apparently quite a cool way)
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08-03-2011, 10:53
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#3843
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Re: TiVo
Thanks.... and as have had an email thing and am current customer have the chance to change to the TIVO system?
The Radio Player would be amazing!
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Do the apps cost extra when you use them?
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08-03-2011, 10:56
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#3844
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Stephen
VM are still Working out the kinks in the epg data. For now I would keep it on new and repeats just in case. It won't record repeats if you still have the original one on your TiVo.
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That's usefull to know, thanks,
What will happen with shows like Law and Order SVU on Universal, where they're not just showing the latest series, but earlier ones as well?
If you set a series link for just the laest series and set it for 'new and repeats', does it ignore previous series?
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
Under certain circumstances (in apparently quite a cool way) 
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Could you expand on what the 'Under certain circumstances' bit means please?
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08-03-2011, 11:01
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#3845
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Could you expand on what the 'Under certain circumstances' bit means please?
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Not seen it action yet so can't be 100% certain how it works yet. As soon as I do I will lol
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08-03-2011, 12:56
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
It depends on the output resolutions you've selected. If you've ticked all 5 boxes it passes through whatever it gets. Otherwise it will up- or downscale as necessary.
My TV doesn't support 576i over HDMI so I wouldn't be able to watch SD if it always passed through.
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I did some experimenting last night and only enabled 576p output so the TV, menus, everything was forced out at 576 as confirmed by my TV which displays the current mode. The SD menus and SD TV looked no different than when forced to upscale to 720p or 1080i. Even the HD menus looked decent (the TV has to use it's internal scaler to fill the 1920x1080 screen res). I then forced 720p out only, still no difference in SD image quality whereas the V+ would have upscaled and sharpened the image. Finally I forced 1080i only and was definitely the worst for SD broadcasts. So to me it appears TiVo is making no effort to resize and sharpen the image when set to 720p or 1080i.
576i was blurry as hell. There again if there's motion on screen 1080i gives a less sharp and less smooth image than 1080p.
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08-03-2011, 13:27
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Re: TiVo
Andy C your technical and learned post is exactly what scares me stiff about TIVO!
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08-03-2011, 13:28
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#3848
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by passingbat
The third will be activated this month, and, what's a massive plus over the V+, is that all 3 will record and buffer programmes.
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Ok, so the current V+ box has 3 tuners, so i can record 2 things at once, while watching something other than the 2 things i am recording.
But your saying on the tivo post update, i ll be able to record 3 things while wtaching something other than the 3 things i am recording, or will i have to be watching 1 of the 3 things i am recording?
Ps how is this known if the update hasnt arrived?
Thanks in advamce guys.
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08-03-2011, 13:28
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Andy C
I did some experimenting last night and only enabled 576p output so the TV, menus, everything was forced out at 576 as confirmed by my TV which displays the current mode. The SD menus and SD TV looked no different than when forced to upscale to 720p or 1080i. Even the HD menus looked decent (the TV has to use it's internal scaler to fill the 1920x1080 screen res). I then forced 720p out only, still no difference in SD image quality whereas the V+ would have upscaled and sharpened the image. Finally I forced 1080i only and was definitely the worst for SD broadcasts. So to me it appears TiVo is making no effort to resize and sharpen the image when set to 720p or 1080i.
576i was blurry as hell. There again if there's motion on screen 1080i gives a less sharp and less smooth image than 1080p.
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It's actually pretty important to get this clarified by VM. As if you have a decent TV or AV Amp which upscales you will be better off setting SD to output to 576 as setting it to 720p or 1080i will prevent the TV/Amp scaling.
With reguard to this, can you output HD stuff at 1080i while outputting SD at 576 or if you want HD are you forced to output everything at HD resolutions even if the box isn't scaling?
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08-03-2011, 13:34
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Re: TiVo
Ok Rattus now am really lost. Am I going to be able to work this thing?!
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08-03-2011, 13:43
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by herby247
or will i have to be watching 1 of the 3 things i am recording?
Ps how is this known if the update hasnt arrived?
Thanks in advamce guys.
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It has three tuners only so if all three are recording, you can't watch a fourth channel,
It's been posted on this forum about all three tuners being recordable.
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08-03-2011, 14:56
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by herby247
But your saying on the tivo post update, i ll be able to record 3 things while wtaching something other than the 3 things i am recording, or will i have to be watching 1 of the 3 things i am recording?
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If there's 3 tuners then I would imagine you'll be able to record 3 channels, but you would either have to watch one of the shows being recorded or watch a previously recorded show. If there is no 4th tuner then you can't watch a fourth channel.
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Originally Posted by Rattus
With reguard to this, can you output HD stuff at 1080i while outputting SD at 576 or if you want HD are you forced to output everything at HD resolutions even if the box isn't scaling?
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When I have all resolutions enabled the TiVo selects 720p for SD content. If you enable only 576p and 1080i then it chooses to output SD at 1080i. You can't seem to get it to choose 576p output unless you disable both HD resolutions.
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Originally Posted by Doug P
Andy C your technical and learned post is exactly what scares me stiff about TIVO!
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Don't worry about it mate, the TiVo is really easy to use. The majority of people wont worry or need to fiddle with the settings I'm messing with as the box will auto detect your TVs best input.
It's definitely worth getting, and should you not like it (which I very much doubt) then cancel during the cooling off period. Even though i'm not best pleased with the SD picture quality I'd never go back to V+
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08-03-2011, 15:17
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Andy C[[/COLOR
Don't worry about it mate, the TiVo is really easy to use. The majority of people wont worry or need to fiddle with the settings I'm messing with as the box will auto detect your TVs best input.
It's definitely worth getting, and should you not like it (which I very much doubt) then cancel during the cooling off period. Even though i'm not best pleased with the SD picture quality I'd never go back to V+
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Many thanks that is most reassuring!
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08-03-2011, 15:26
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Re: TiVo
Series links can now be set for TiVo remotely on virginmedia.com tv guide
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08-03-2011, 15:35
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Re: TiVo
Can you set the padding though ?
but seriously, change the default to add 3 mins padding to the stop time.
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